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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby robertpool » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:01 am

Spotted this while on a business trip to Barcelona last year

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Facel Vega Facel II 02

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Facel Vega Facel II 07

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Facel Vega Facel II 09

The Facel Vega 'Facel II' was a French Grand Touring car produced between the years 1962 and 1964.

By 1962, the Paris-based Facel Vega company was facing bankruptcy and the Facel II (pronounced '2') was to be the company's last attempt to create a luxury GT car in the French tradition.

The Facel ll was highly exclusive and expensive. Its handsome design led to famous owners, including Pablo Picasso, Lionel Bart, John Bloom, Lord Brabourne, The Chrysler Corporation (and Mrs Carr, Walter Chrysler's daughter), Joan Collins, Tony Curtis, Christian Dior, Stanley Donen, Charlie Drake, Max Factor Jr, Joan Fontaine, Ava Gardner (who bought three), The Marchioness of Huntly (whose car had full-harness seat-belts), Herbert von Karajan, Danny Kaye, Louis Malle, The President of Mexico, Princess Grace of Monaco, Yves Montand, Hassan ll King of Morocco, Baroness Sally Oppenheim-Barnes, William S. Paley, Prince Poniatowski, Anthony Quinn, Debbie Reynolds, Frank Sinatra, Ringo Starr, The Marchioness of Tavistock, François Truffaut, Robert Wagner, Sir Mortimer Wheeler, The Shah of Persia and Sihanouk King-Father of Cambodia. Race drivers Sir Stirling Moss, Maurice Trintignant, Tony Vandervell and Rob Walker had Facels.

The Facel ll was powered by an American 6.3L (383 cu.in.) Chrysler 'Typhoon' engine which produced 355 hp (265 kW) in automatic-gearbox form and 390 hp (291 kW) in manual. The Facel company advertised it as Le Coupe 4-places le plus rapide du Monde. Using Chrysler's three-speed Torqueflite automatic gearbox, the 6.3 litre Facel ll could reach over 135 mph (225 km/h). With a French Pont a Mousson 4-speed manual gearbox the full-four-seater 6.3 litre Facel ll could attain over 150 mph (247 km/h) and out-accelerate its two-seater rivals, the Aston Martin DB4, Ferrari 250 GT and Mercedes-Benz 300SL to 60 mph (97 km/h) and all except the Ferrari to 100 mph (160 km/h). Dunlop disc brakes were fitted on all four wheels and power steering, leather seats and electric windows and radio aerial were standard. The later 'manuals' were fitted with the even more powerful 6.7L (413 cu.in.) Chrysler "RB" wedge engine.

Like its predecessor, the Facel Vega HK500, the Facel ll was heavier than its two-seater rivals, weighing 1,880 kilograms (4,100 lb) (37 cwt) 'dry' and almost two tons with four passengers and a full petrol tank. There was some question about its ride and rear suspension - it used suspension virtually unchanged from the previous HK500 - but certainly none about its speed or glamour.

England's 'Autocar' said of it, "To step down into a Facel ll and go motoring must be the ambition of many who can never fulfil it. Such an experience is reserved for the few who can afford to buy one and for their friends and acquaintances". For 'Motor', "There are faster sports cars, although very few, and there are more refined and luxurious saloons, but it is difficult to think of a more remarkable combination of these rather conflicting qualities ..... its unique combination of qualities left the most vivid impression on everyone who drove it. In particular one remembers the smoothness and silence, the effortless gate of a car which does 100 mph (160 km/h) at only 3,650 rpm. and the acceleration which leaves other fast cars far behind on every straight. One can enjoy the latest refinements of American brute force with European standards of control in an environment of British luxury and French elegance".

In 1964 the Facel company went into receivership, largely due to warranty claims against Facel Vega's smaller Facellia its troublesome engine. Facel ll production was discontinued with only 180 Facel lls ever built.

Jean Daninos, its creator and manufacturer, said of the Facel ll, "The HK 500 was the most interesting car we ever made but the Facel ll was by far the best. It was totally "elegant"'.

The Facel ll is now amongst the rarest and most sought-after of all 1960s Grand Tourers
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby Fireman » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:45 am

Interesting that the Facel is displaying an Edinburgh registration number which is still current on that car - small world.

The car at the Botanics is a Beaufort, a modern car with retro styling. Very popular with wedding hire companies as they get the vintage look without the hassle of sourcing out of production parts if something breaks or wears out. Its earliest look-alike predecessor used a Mini body altered and adapted to include the long bonnet, etc. Down-side was they were tiny inside and a bride with a big dress resulted in things getting a bit cosy inside with all the frills, layers and stuff. ::):
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby BrigitDoon » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:59 pm

Facel - magnifique :)
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby robertpool » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:36 pm

Hard Rock Cafe, Barcelona

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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby Huggy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:52 pm

A beautifully restored old Bentley, dark green, on an Argyle single track road, reversed and pulled in for it, the registration was JINGS.
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby droschke7 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:40 pm

hard rock cafe? now we know who to blame for the Transport museum. Jings Crivens and help ma Boab
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby Jockissimo » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:48 am

Fireman wrote:Interesting that the Facel is displaying an Edinburgh registration number which is still current on that car - small world.


I see it is actually right hand drive!

Looks like a Bristol. Same concept as the Jensen.

IIRC Robbie Coltraine had "JINGS" on an american import 15-20 years ago so he has probably shifted it over i dare say.
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby gap74 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:35 am

I'll see your immaculate white DS and raise you a rarer, tatty silver convertible, as seen in a yard near Farme Cross today - last time I passed, it was an Allegro perched on this flatbed!

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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby Fireman » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:56 am

Ooooooooo - now that's an expensive car, even more so when restored.

Good find gap. 8)
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby droschke7 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:29 am

stole this off the web but it is my fave Citroen
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby BrigitDoon » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:42 am

Citroen SM. It has a V6 Maserati unit. Also swivelling headlights. Underbonnet plumbing is a nightmare. Leave well alone unless it's the only thing you want to spend your life and money on :)
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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby BTJustice » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:57 pm

Spotted this today;

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Re: Old Cars etc Spotted

Postby Fireman » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:02 pm

That's a crispy old GT!

Those rubber bumpers are probably covering even more horrors underneath. :?
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