PU prints

[toomse]

Do any of the community here have access to Public Utility prints?
PU prints highlight ALL footway/carriageway services

This would be a major aid to identifying the location of tunnels/route of the Molendinar etc

[Vinegar Tom]

The Scottish Water drawings can be used to follow the Molendinar from the Great Eastern heading South. There is no detail between the above ground section and the next ( presumably ?) mapped section in the College Goods Yard where a manhole is shown with a continuous route ( shown in green as opposed to black or red ) to The Clyde. From Bell Street , the OS peck detail indicates a tunnel as far as James Morrison Street via: Molendinar Street, Gallowgate , St Andrew's Lane and London Road. From James Morrison Street it proceeds via Turnbull Street and Glasgow Green to outfall in the Clyde.

The last bit conflicts with information I have read elsewhere , so I stand to be corrected.

[scoobydoo]

I would have thought Glasgow City Council have plans which show the route of this watercourse. Extensive drainage studies have been carried out by GCC/ Scottish Water and I'm certain this would extend north of the Great Eastern. Perhaps a FoI request would produce some drawings etc

[BenCooper]

I've had a go at mapping the course, basically by counting steps and guessing at the angles of corners - not easy down there

Basically, it curves down under the goods yard to the top of Molindenar Street, down that street to Gallowgate, then straight across under London Road to St. Andrews Square, then I think it heads for the high courts. It definitely exits at the courts, but the last section is not passable so it's hard to say what it does. On my map, it doesn't go down Turnbull St., but that actually makes more sense - the Camlachie Burn goes under Greendyke St., and the Molendinar is passable for a reasonable distance after the junction - this must be under Glasgow Green as it heads for the courts.

If only GPS worked underground

[Ronnie]

I'm guessing what "public utility prints"/ "PU prints" are, but Google has no knowledge of them ... are they called something else? Who might have access to them? Who collates and maintains them? What access would the pubic have to them? Is there a PU prints FAQ somewhere? Thanks.

[toomse]

PU prints are the diagrams held by the major service companies – Gas, Water, Electricity, Comms & Local Council. In the past I’ve seen combined prints but now you have to apply to each company separately.

Ronnie, I’ll use the unusual air vent you highlighted to me outside the Savoy Centre as an example (still working on getting Local Council prints for this location)







GAS





WATER





POWER





COMMS DUCT

[Ronnie]

Thanks, toomse. So anyone can ask the gas/ phone/ electricity companies for a print?

[toomse]

afraid not - I obtained these surreptitiously

[Ronnie]

Thanks. It's all becoming clearer ...

[toomse]

additional info

Any footway/carriageway excavations undertaken by the major service companies or their sub contractors regardless of how minor require PU prints. This is in case an individual drills through a water main, high power cable etc. Diagrams are held and accessed by each company but are not available to the general public. Detailed info can be found on the HSE web site.

here’s a brief quote:
Avoiding Danger from Underground Services

The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) publish a series of guidance documents for those who have duties under the Health and Safety at Work etcetera Act 1974 and other relevant information. The relevant document for safe digging is HS (G)47 "Avoiding Danger from Underground Services", ISBN O 11 885492 5, and is available from HMSO.
The HS(G) series gives guidance on the practical application of legislation, but should not be regarded as an authoritative interpretation of the law.
HS(G)47 is a comprehensive document covering all buried services and utility apparatus, which states that "It deals only with risks to health and safety and is not concerned with damage, which has no attendant risk".


In addition to PU prints it’s also standard to conduct a high pressure pipeline search
http://www.linesearch.org/







It’s also standard to include a Symology search that indicates traffic sensitivity info
http://srwr.symology.net/




I didn’t expect to go into so much detail at the start of this thread and don’t have direct access to these systems myself. I only intended a general query to members who may have access to one of the Service Providers systems (particularly Water) as this would be a great advantage.

Hope this helps

[My Kitten]

I used to get them quite frequently in a previous employment, just a letter with a map showing the area that we wanted and a package would appear soonafter.

[toomse]

interpreting duct prints






box types






cabinet types

[toomse]

Anyone wondering what the abbreviations on the OS maps are here’s a link to an A-Z guide

http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsi ... ons.html#a