Earthenware pot!

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Earthenware pot!

Postby Peekay » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:25 pm

I've got an 'old' earthenware pot about 10" high and 10" radius. It has Wm Farmer and Sons, Hillhead and Bearsden and 6d in blue on different lines at the front. I'll post a photie when I get my camera but in the meantime does anyone know owt about them and have any ideas what it would have been used for? Is the price of the pot "6d" or is that the price of what it would have contained. The writing is actually moulded in the pot so it's not as if it was/is meant to be a temporary price that could be changed.

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby Blueboy » Thu May 01, 2008 4:44 pm

Howdy PK.
This might be of interest, although it doesn't help with your query as to what the jar was used for.

http://www.strathblanefield.org.uk/hist ... ldWar.html

Members of the congregation contributed money on a regular basis throughout the war years to ensure that those serving their country were not forgotten. William Farmer and Sons, Italian Warehousemen, Hillhead, Glasgow dispatched the Christmas boxes. As well as food and other comforts, money was also sent. Peter and James O'Donnell, whose family still live in the parish, each received 10 French Francs in their Christmas boxes in 1917.


Then again, it might be another William Farmer and Sons, Hillhead...

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby Peekay » Sat May 03, 2008 1:41 pm

Thanks BB,
They certainly 'look' right but I can't find owt more about them.

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby mrsam » Mon May 05, 2008 9:23 pm

Hi, I can tell you what it's not more that what it is (may at somepoint put pics up to back this up but not now..)

Its not medicinal in nature as things medicinal are of clear glass with text and flat pannels for paper lables (or tall jars with glass lables and stoppers for shop use)

Ditto household cleaner type things (with a few examples that differ!)

Poison was purply blue in colour with a textured surface so thats out

Its not a Drinks thing as pop is in tall glass bottles with destinctive bottle tops and lettering top and bottom
( http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7053&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=45 to see what I mean)

Its not a Milk jar as milk jars are tall n thin clear glass with lettering (think posh wine caraf thing)

Cream jugs are usually dumpy white pots bout 15 - 20 cm's tall with a latrge picture detail on the front, but this is an option

I think that it is returnable pot for something like pie or stew with the company name on the front (In the days before plastic tubs were around so date from 1750's till 1940's tho most likely 1840's till 1930's) to solve mystery you need to find out who wM farmer & Sons were and what they did / made

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby Peekay » Tue May 06, 2008 12:06 am

mrsam wrote:I think that it is returnable pot for something like pie or stew with the company name on the front (In the days before plastic tubs were around so date from 1750's till 1940's tho most likely 1840's till 1930's) to solve mystery you need to find out who wM farmer & Sons were and what they did / made

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That's a great bit of 'out the box' thinking. Makes perfect sense too. Take whatever it contained away in the pot, and reclaim 6d for the empty pot. Just like a 20p gingie. Yep, I'll go with that!

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby catriona » Tue May 06, 2008 4:28 am

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Click on 'Gallery Archives'...
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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby mrsam » Tue May 06, 2008 7:30 pm

mrsam wrote:Hi, I can tell you what it's not more that what it is (may at somepoint put pics up to back this up but not now..)

Its not medicinal in nature as things medicinal are of clear glass with text and flat pannels for paper lables (or tall jars with glass lables and stoppers for shop use)

Ditto household cleaner type things (with a few examples that differ!)

Poison was purply blue in colour with a textured surface so thats out

Its not a Drinks thing as pop is in tall glass bottles with destinctive bottle tops and lettering top and bottom
( http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7053&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=45 to see what I mean)

Its not a Milk jar as milk jars are tall n thin clear glass with lettering (think posh wine caraf thing)

Cream jugs are usually dumpy white pots bout 15 - 20 cm's tall with a latrge picture detail on the front, but this is an option

I think that it is returnable pot for something like pie or stew with the company name on the front (In the days before plastic tubs were around so date from 1750's till 1940's tho most likely 1840's till 1930's) to solve mystery you need to find out who wM farmer & Sons were and what they did / made

Mr Sam


Hmmm Butter pot (Bollocks) thaught of that but forgot to mention it earlier as a possibility. Well done Catriona

Now what next from the HG'ers?

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby Peekay » Wed May 07, 2008 12:36 pm

Thanks C+Mr.S,
You've certainly told me what it is/was, but after closer inspection of mine it's got "Port Dundas pottery coy, 4lb" vaguely stamped on the back. If you look at your photie and mine you can see the pattern on the border is slightly different. However seeing as Cleland went bust in 1911 it'd be reasonable to surmise that Wm Farmer then started getting his pots from P.Dundas giving me a date of 1911-1932(the year Dundas went bust).

Still can't find owt about this Wm Farmer bloke though!

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby Sharon » Thu May 08, 2008 9:23 am

Mr Sam - a thread on old Glasgow bottles and pottery would be great! feel free to start one :)
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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby dazza » Sat May 10, 2008 12:22 am

Only discovered this when i was looking for information on Craiglaw Place.

There was little, if any, retail activity until 1853, when the first important new business was established in the suburb, William Farmer & Sons, grocers and provision merchants. William Farmer was well known in Hillhead for several generations, not only for the shop he operated for nearly 50 years, but also because he was a Hillhead Burgh Commissioner and magistrate.

Farmer set up shop at 1 Craiglaw Place. His grocery business was very much like that of his later rival, Cooper & Co., but according to one resident, Farmer's was 'purely local and more personal in administration.' Another writer recalled that Farmer 'did particularly high class trade, specialising in rice grown in different parts of the East.'
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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby catriona » Sun May 11, 2008 7:31 pm

Serendipity! I love when that happens.
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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby nick farmer » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:35 am

we have these pots at home, as the William Farmer referred to here was my great grandfather, his son being William Roy Farmer, My grandfather.

They are indeed butter pots. The family moved from the Bearsden area of Glasgow in the late forties/eary fifties to the Highlands.

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Re: Earthenware pot!

Postby Doorstop » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:13 am

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