Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Godsgift » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:21 am

RDR wrote:
Godsgift wrote:But Edinburgh is pedestrian friendly. Glasgow is certainly not. Much of it is just a concrete desert. :cry:


I'm not really sure where you get the idea that Edinburgh is pedestrian friendly?
Got an example?
I work through in Edinburgh quite a bit and the city centre is every bit as bad as Glasgow if you are on foot.
Northbridge awful.
Waterloo Place terrible if you are trying to cross the road.
George Street, you play dodgems with the parked cars in the centre and crossing over.
Don't even get me started on Haymarket and the mess that is the tram works there. :cry:


In fairness, I haven't set foot in Edinburgh in 10 years but I think what I mean is that when you walk around the place it's aesthetically pleasing with plenty of people around. Glasgow on the other hand (and only in my opinion) has many sort of dead areas like between the arcade on Argyle Street and St Enoch or up around Georges Cross at the start of the Maryhill Roador around West Street or Bridge Street underground or Port Dundas.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby RDR » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:03 pm

Godsgift wrote:
RDR wrote:
Godsgift wrote:But Edinburgh is pedestrian friendly. Glasgow is certainly not. Much of it is just a concrete desert. :cry:


I'm not really sure where you get the idea that Edinburgh is pedestrian friendly?
Got an example?
I work through in Edinburgh quite a bit and the city centre is every bit as bad as Glasgow if you are on foot.
Northbridge awful.
Waterloo Place terrible if you are trying to cross the road.
George Street, you play dodgems with the parked cars in the centre and crossing over.
Don't even get me started on Haymarket and the mess that is the tram works there. :cry:


In fairness, I haven't set foot in Edinburgh in 10 years but I think what I mean is that when you walk around the place it's aesthetically pleasing with plenty of people around. Glasgow on the other hand (and only in my opinion) has many sort of dead areas like between the arcade on Argyle Street and St Enoch or up around Georges Cross at the start of the Maryhill Roador around West Street or Bridge Street underground or Port Dundas.


Ah, I see where you are coming from.
Most of the 'dead' areas in Glasgow seem to have been created by sucessive councils and their traffic management schemes or building plans.
I'm not sure Edonburgh, whilst it can be argued, might be nicer to look at, isn't ending up the same way.
Up Lothian Road to Tollcross is pretty dead now and further up Northbridge isn't any better.
The tram works aren't helping and neither is the extensive refurb of Waverly Station (though that will be of benefit if and when its ever complete).
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Mori » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:29 am

Was in Edinburgh last week for a meeting, got off the train at haymarket which was a half hour behind and was late already for the meeting, as Soon as i come out the station was hit with miles of heris fencing, ended up waving a taxi down rather walking round all this fencing and be even later for the meet.

I must say am glad i'm a weegie, Edinburgh is such a dour place especialy now with all the Tramworks its even worse than it was a few years ago when i had to attend a meeting there also, was talking to the taxi driver and he was saying its got worse every year since the tram works and Princes st will never be the same ever again as businesses are closing up left, right and centre because of the road works, taxi driver droped me off as nearest to where i wanted to go because again he couldnt access the rd because of the tram roadworks.

Even asking directions for a certain building which is well known,the locals didnt know where it was or they just couldnt be botherd, an English accent speaking gent actualy knew more than the locals and directed me to where i wanted to go... Thank God for Glasgow is all i can say. :D
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Haggis » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:16 am

I used to like West End in Glasgow in 80s.There was such a buzz about it.I know what you mean about Eburgh it was such a nice city to go even for a day trip by train or bus.but i stopped going around 18yr ago or more i think.Up until 4pm it was ok then the feeling of the city changed .the locals have always been cold anyway,you dont get much out of them at all.for a small city you would think it would be more freindly,ive tried several times to get to like eburgh and its folks but they just dont seem to connect.As for today well im just glad i dont go anymore.Glasgow is 4/5 times the size with 2mill pop in Greater area,Yet with all its probs the folks still are much freindlier and helpful.No offence meant to folks from eburgh.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Lucky Poet » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:16 am

Edinburgh's always been a bit odd in its way - one joke went that the dinosaurs never died out, they just moved to Edinburgh where everybody ignores them. The ongoing tram thing has lent the place a bit of a weariness that wasn't there before. Partly embarrassment too, I think.

As for Glasgow though, one of the bits I love is the stretch of Argyle St about level with the SECC. Nice wee buzz about it just now, and it has one of my favourite pubs anywhere. Hated areas? Well I didn't hate it at all really, but Springburn was a bit hair-raising when I was there a while back. Accusations of wussiness on my part may not be entirely wide of the mark, mind you.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby bAzTNM » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:40 pm

Whole north of Glasgow (includes Springburn) is very hairy. You get the feeling the town planners have just ignored that whole area. Wouldn't want to live there, not at all.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby The Egg Man » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:05 pm

Lucky Poet wrote: .........................
As for Glasgow though, one of the bits I love is the stretch of Argyle St about level with the SECC. Nice wee buzz about it just now, and it has one of my favourite pubs anywhere. Hated areas? Well I didn't hate it at all really, but Springburn was a bit hair-raising when I was there a while back. Accusations of wussiness on my part may not be entirely wide of the mark, mind you.



That stretch of Argyle St, from Elliot Street to Kelvinhaugh Street, has become much brighter and busier in the last few years although some of the new arrivals seem fairly short term. Gazelle has become something else, the Army surplus store has gone as has Clan Stores and there's rather a lot of computer/ phone repair places. Cafe Bayan has become The Finnieston and Crabshakk has expanded a few doors down. There's an application in for a licence for yet another Italian restaurant next to Tesco.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby RDR » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:13 am

Mori wrote:Was in Edinburgh last week for a meeting, got off the train at haymarket which was a half hour behind and was late already for the meeting, as Soon as i come out the station was hit with miles of heris fencing, ended up waving a taxi down rather walking round all this fencing and be even later for the meet.

I must say am glad i'm a weegie, Edinburgh is such a dour place especialy now with all the Tramworks its even worse than it was a few years ago when i had to attend a meeting there also, was talking to the taxi driver and he was saying its got worse every year since the tram works and Princes st will never be the same ever again as businesses are closing up left, right and centre because of the road works, taxi driver droped me off as nearest to where i wanted to go because again he couldnt access the rd because of the tram roadworks.

Even asking directions for a certain building which is well known,the locals didnt know where it was or they just couldnt be botherd, an English accent speaking gent actualy knew more than the locals and directed me to where i wanted to go... Thank God for Glasgow is all i can say. :D


That's my experience too.
Haymarket station entrance is just awful at the moment and with all the fencing its actually quite difficult to work out how to get anywhere and I'm only usually going up the road a bit to Thistle House.

Scotrail, as I think I've said before, also seem to recruit the most unhelpful staff on the network at Haymarket, coupled with frequently wrong platform announcements it is pretty easy to get on the wrong train.

By comparison staff at Waverly and Motherwell are miles more helpful and go out of their way to try and find out what you need.

Given Motherwell station entrance is in about the same mess as Haymarket due to renovations to Muir Street the staff there seemed clued in to the confusion that causes for travellers trying to get onward connections on Buses or trying to find the moved Taxi rank.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Jockissimo » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:21 am

Mori wrote:Was in Edinburgh last week for a meeting, got off the train at haymarket which was a half hour behind and was late already for the meeting, as Soon as i come out the station was hit with miles of heris fencing, ended up waving a taxi down rather walking round all this fencing and be even later for the meet.

I must say am glad i'm a weegie, Edinburgh is such a dour place especialy now with all the Tramworks its even worse than it was a few years ago when i had to attend a meeting there also, was talking to the taxi driver and he was saying its got worse every year since the tram works and Princes st will never be the same ever again as businesses are closing up left, right and centre because of the road works, taxi driver droped me off as nearest to where i wanted to go because again he couldnt access the rd because of the tram roadworks.

Even asking directions for a certain building which is well known,the locals didnt know where it was or they just couldnt be botherd, an English accent speaking gent actualy knew more than the locals and directed me to where i wanted to go... Thank God for Glasgow is all i can say. :D


Better at a glesga chibbin' than a Edinbra A- Z convention. :wink:

Pedestrian Freindly another post says? All those narrow bloody pavements with buss wing mirrors clippin' yer lugs? Hardly any pedestrian precincts and half of business and shopping out at the Gyle ?

Good licensing hours for ordinary pubs though.on thing in edina's favour..;-)=
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Mori » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:32 pm

Need to visit the peoples palace again soon, love that wee museum. :D

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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby The Egg Man » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Part of the problem with Edinburgh is that it isn't that easy to meet genuine Edinburgers (or whatever the proper term is).

Drinking in the New Town you'll meet people who've moved to Edinburgh for employment and have done OK for themselves (Rose St excluded).

Drinking in the Old Town you'll mostly bump into tourists.

Drinking in the South Side, you'll more often than not bump into students and academics, many of whom aren't from Edinburgh.

Once you get outwith the city centre you'll find more Edinburgh folk. Stockbridge is my favourite. A couple of fine pubs, cafes and delis, some good charity shops, handy for the Botanics and Glenogle Baths.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Josef » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:58 pm

The Egg Man wrote: Stockbridge is my favourite. A couple of fine pubs, cafes and delis, some good charity shops, handy for the Botanics and Glenogle Baths.


Me too. The charity shops there are the source of almost all my double-cuffed shirts and 2nd hand Classical.

Great bakers, too. Goodfellow and Stevens, is it?
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Dexter St. Clair » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:58 pm

I'd recommend Noble's in Constitution Street this Saturday for eclectic mud
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby The Egg Man » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:22 pm

Josef wrote:
The Egg Man wrote: Stockbridge is my favourite. A couple of fine pubs, cafes and delis, some good charity shops, handy for the Botanics and Glenogle Baths.


Me too. The charity shops there are the source of almost all my double-cuffed shirts and 2nd hand Classical.

Great bakers, too. Goodfellow and Stevens, is it?


I couldn't have confirmed the name but Google agrees with you.

I don't know about eclectic mud but Noble's has great stained glass.
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Re: Your most loved, & most hated, areas of Glasgow ?

Postby Godsgift » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:42 am

Haggis wrote:I used to like West End in Glasgow in 80s.There was such a buzz about it.I know what you mean about Eburgh it was such a nice city to go even for a day trip by train or bus.but i stopped going around 18yr ago or more i think.Up until 4pm it was ok then the feeling of the city changed .the locals have always been cold anyway,you dont get much out of them at all.for a small city you would think it would be more freindly,ive tried several times to get to like eburgh and its folks but they just dont seem to connect.As for today well im just glad i dont go anymore.Glasgow is 4/5 times the size with 2mill pop in Greater area,Yet with all its probs the folks still are much freindlier and helpful.No offence meant to folks from eburgh.



That would be around the time I was frequenting Edinburgh. It was aan eye opener to a young fella like me. Dad always said to be careful in Edinburgh......"It's full o' whoors an homosexuals...." I'm pleased to say he was right. Fun days eye'n up the girls on Princes Street and dinking in Deacon Brodies and The Last Drop.

But you're right of course about the people and I see it more now that I don't live in Glasgow. I always say to people here in Ireland....In Glasgow, you'll make friends at a bus stop and they'll be your friends for life. You could live in Edinburgh all your life and one day if you're very lucky, your grand children may just be accepted as locals. :cry:
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