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However, this also meant that there were staff with serious drink problems or basis literacy/numeracy issues who they could not shift.
AlanM wrote:It used to be that what school you went to had a bearing on the outcome of any job application (It's aledgedly not a coincidence that the corporation colours were green and gold)
Schiehallion wrote:Jobs for the boys, always has been, always will be. They can have all the fancy dan recruitment policies they want. If yer Da's pally with the cooncillor's brother then yer in.
As AlanM correctly hints at, once they actually fill a job the white smoke pours out over the Square!
Escotregen wrote:In Glasgow, in addition to the one-party political domination, we have the added dimension that the one-party domination originated in the city's real-politic agreement in the early 20th century. The city had a peculiar (unique?) understanding between the emergent progressive left-wing political party (the Labour Party) and a sizeable and discriminated-against religion/cultural grouping (the Irish Catholic interest). Their understanding was that in return for favours they would both co-operate to deliver the working class vote.
This was, over time, hugely successfull and made possible most of the subsequent 75 years of progressive politics in Glasgow. However, the very success of this understanding carried with it the seeds of decay and corruption. Eventually, not only political allegiance, but also religion and family and wider cliques, became ever-stronger entrenched power bases.
TOG wrote: "We find no evidence that Scots Catholics now suffer social, economic or political disabilities. We find no evidence of residential segregation or social avoidance. We find no evidence that Glaswegians go in fear of casual sectarian violence. We find very little evidence that Catholics are socially or politically distinctive." (Sectarianism in Scotland, Steve Bruce).
Socceroo wrote:Dexter St. Clair wrote:
I hate to be cruel Mori but I do hope you spell checked your application form.Dexter St. Clair wrote:Some times disbled candidates are..................
germistonguy wrote:AlanM wrote:It used to be that what school you went to had a bearing on the outcome of any job application (It's aledgedly not a coincidence that the corporation colours were green and gold)Schiehallion wrote:Jobs for the boys, always has been, always will be. They can have all the fancy dan recruitment policies they want. If yer Da's pally with the cooncillor's brother then yer in.
As AlanM correctly hints at, once they actually fill a job the white smoke pours out over the Square!
My knowledge on the subject of religion and council jobs is zero, but Iam picking up from what you are both saying that you needed to be Roman Catholic to stand any chance of getting a job in the council??
I was always under the impression that (historically at least) finding work in general in Glasgow was difficult if you were Roman Catholic??
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Schiehallion wrote:Jobs for the boys, always has been, always will be. They can have all the fancy dan recruitment policies they want. If yer Da's pally with the cooncillor's brother then yer in.
As AlanM correctly hints at, once they actually fill a job the white smoke pours out over the Square!
AlanM wrote:I wasn't saying that you had to be RC I was just stating that there was a time when it helped and that although that time has now passed, the legacy of the 'jobs for the bhoys' culture remains.
Alan
Roxburgh wrote:AlanM wrote:I wasn't saying that you had to be RC I was just stating that there was a time when it helped and that although that time has now passed, the legacy of the 'jobs for the bhoys' culture remains.
Alan
Spot the Protestant
1972-75 Sir William Gray
1975-77 Peter McCann
1977-80 David Hodge
1978-84 Michael Kelly
1984-88 Robert Gray
1988-92 Susan Baird
1992-94 Robert Innes
1994-95 James Shields
1995-96 Tommy Dingwall
1996-99 Pat Lally
1999-2002 Alex Mosson
2002 - present Liz Cameron
Dexter St. Clair wrote:Socceroo wrote:Dexter St. Clair wrote:
I hate to be cruel Mori but I do hope you spell checked your application form.Dexter St. Clair wrote:Some times disbled candidates are..................
I knew when I typed it there would be an error some where.
Did I follow my own advice? Did I ...
All that suggests to me is that there is a high number of Catholics who vote Labour....Dexter St. Clair wrote:Roxburgh wrote:AlanM wrote:I wasn't saying that you had to be RC I was just stating that there was a time when it helped and that although that time has now passed, the legacy of the 'jobs for the bhoys' culture remains.
Alan
Spot the Protestant
1972-75 Sir William Gray
1975-77 Peter McCann
1977-80 David Hodge
1978-84 Michael Kelly
1984-88 Robert Gray
1988-92 Susan Baird
1992-94 Robert Innes
1994-95 James Shields
1995-96 Tommy Dingwall
1996-99 Pat Lally
1999-2002 Alex Mosson
2002 - present Liz Cameron
Is it the last one to get a knighthood?
AlanM wrote:germistonguy wrote:AlanM wrote:It used to be that what school you went to had a bearing on the outcome of any job application (It's aledgedly not a coincidence that the corporation colours were green and gold)Schiehallion wrote:Jobs for the boys, always has been, always will be. They can have all the fancy dan recruitment policies they want. If yer Da's pally with the cooncillor's brother then yer in.
As AlanM correctly hints at, once they actually fill a job the white smoke pours out over the Square!
My knowledge on the subject of religion and council jobs is zero, but Iam picking up from what you are both saying that you needed to be Roman Catholic to stand any chance of getting a job in the council??
I was always under the impression that (historically at least) finding work in general in Glasgow was difficult if you were Roman Catholic??
Can anyone clarify this for me?
I wasn't saying that you had to be RC I was just stating that there was a time when it helped and that although that time has now passed, the legacy of the 'jobs for the bhoys' culture remains.
Alan
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