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old map of old glasgow

Postby kokotheclown » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:40 pm

found this 1560 map on the glasgowstory webpage (apologies if this is the wrong place to post it):

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/imagevie ... =TGSA00526

I never realised Glasgow Green had moved. I also see that Enoch went by the name of Tenus (not even Thenew), although up around what might be Hope Street now, Enoch is used . I see how the train station got its name now.

Little Govan near the Gorbals is also surprising. I guess this Map was created sometime after 1560 as a faint watermark is visible.
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Postby AMcD » Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:55 pm

Interesting...

I wonder what happened to the 'Burn called Glasgow' shown on the map as well. :?:

Is it the Kelvin?
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Postby martin » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:37 pm

You can just about make out a "compiled for <something>'s 'History of Glasgow' 1919" at the bottom of the page.
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Postby escotregen » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:40 pm

Koko, I found this map interesting as it has one of the clearest delineations of the old Molindinar burn; so much so that I think I'll try to trace just whereabouts it lies under today towards the Saltmarket area
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Postby Fossil » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:42 pm

8) nice map

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Postby Ronnie » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:40 pm

martin wrote:You can just about make out a "compiled for <something>'s 'History of Glasgow' 1919" at the bottom of the page.


M. Renwick's History of Glasgow. So the map itself dates from c1919.
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Postby Ronnie » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:42 pm

amcd wrote:Interesting...

I wonder what happened to the 'Burn called Glasgow' shown on the map as well. :?:

Is it the Kelvin?


It was the western boundary of the burgh, where Mitchell Street/ West Nile Street are now. Not sure if it still runs.
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Postby kokotheclown » Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:41 am

the burn can be seen in this map (3oo years later) from another post.

http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/vie ... highlight=
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Postby Seamey » Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:34 am

Doesn't Mitchell St follow the path of an old burn?

If you go down there the cobblestones even look like a meandering river.
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Postby AMcD » Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:13 pm

Seamey wrote:Doesn't Mitchell St follow the path of an old burn?

If you go down there the cobblestones even look like a meandering river.


I see what you mean.... they've set darker cobblestones in a wavey meandering pattern. I could swear on that the other maps I've seen the burn looks slightly further east than Mitchell St/Lane, below Frasers and the Lighthouse.
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Postby Ronnie » Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:06 pm

amcd wrote:
Seamey wrote:Doesn't Mitchell St follow the path of an old burn?

If you go down there the cobblestones even look like a meandering river.


I see what you mean.... they've set darker cobblestones in a wavey meandering pattern. I could swear on that the other maps I've seen the burn looks slightly further east than Mitchell St/Lane, below Frasers and the Lighthouse.


Seamey - thought I'd just said that!

Allan - the reason that Mitchell Street is crooked - in relation to the Glasgow grid - is that the boundary followed the burn.

The burn was also known as St Enoch's burn. If it still runs, it probably drains into the Clyde just south of St Enoch Square.
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St. Enoch's Burn

Postby HollowHorn » Mon May 15, 2006 4:30 pm

Was looking at a "Glasgow Maps" post from GK, this morning, when I noticed the "St. Enoch's Burn" on one of the maps. Spent a couple of hours searching all over web & perusing old maps, guess I should have used the search option :roll:

Anyway, some quotes:
St. Enoch's burn, now tunnelled over in modern West Nile and Mitchell Streets, was, in Barrie's time, an open trouting stream, with rows of trees on its banks.


We now come to the year 1736. At this date the population would not exceed 15,000 persons, living in ten streets and seventeen lanes, and on an area of ground scarcely three quarters of a square mile in extent. It was well provided with bridges, however, there being twenty altogether, and of stone--twelve being within the liberties, and eight without.
Of these twelve, one was over the Clyde at the foot of Stockwell Street, three over St. Enoch's Burn, and eight over the classic Molendinar.


by 1777 the flagstone pavement had been extended westward as far as St Enoch's Burn (now below Union Street and Jamaica Street)
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Postby Fat Cat » Fri May 19, 2006 2:23 pm

What a shame they didn't keep the name "Doghillock" :)
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Postby Flash_Andy » Sat May 20, 2006 1:27 pm

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/imagevie ... =TGSA00526

What happened to the wee island in the Clyde?
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