potholes

[Lucky Poet]

I'm not surprised.

You don't know me very well...

End of.

Pfft!

[Boxer6]

Thank for your concerns about the pedestrians.

I'm more concerned about the fannies by the wheel and how drunk , drugged or just plain speeding they were. Or were they all sober and stupid in charge of 5000 pounds of metal. I'm sure the drivers took on board all of your fatuous stats before they set out. Like a risk assessment.



Here's some more stats.

430 killed in cars driven by drunks in 2007.

As a (advanced) driver, frequent cyclist and pedestrian, in addition to being (I hope) a fairly well rounded human being, of course I'm concerned about the pedestrians; I'm also well aware of the number of drunk/drug-drivers there are out there, which almost certainly is much higher than any official figures would suggest.

However, it doesn't take more than a wander round any city or town centre at night to observe that a significant number of pedestrians are inebriated (on a variety of licit and illicit substances), and will often step out into the road heedless of what may already be there. I have witnessed it myself on a number of occasions, some of which have been friends or work colleagues of mine. Luckily, none of these has resulted in a fatality, but that was due to no more than pure, dumb luck.

Yes, I agree that drivers should drive according to ALL prevailing circumstances; unfortunately, the vast majority of drivers pass their test and seem to stop learning - including the part in the Highway Code where it states that pedestrians have Right of Way on ANY road except Motorways. How many people know that?

[tobester]

Latest news from the scottish government is that they are no longer called potholes and are to be renamed inverted speedbumps, so as of this morning there are no potholes on any road in scotland

no matter what the scottish goverment call them they are still a hazard especially to cyclists
also how can they be called inverted speed bumps when they werent speed bumps to start with!

Hmmm. Do you think he was maybe joking?

Thankfully someone realised i was takin the piss out of the government and their use of bending the truth

[Doorstop]

To be truthful, I think the majority of us did.

[Dexter St. Clair]

However, it doesn't take more than a wander round any city or town centre at night to observe that a significant number of pedestrians are inebriated (on a variety of licit and illicit substances), and will often step out into the road heedless of what may already be there. I have witnessed it myself on a number of occasions, some of which have been friends or work colleagues of mine. Luckily, none of these has resulted in a fatality, but that was due to no more than pure, dumb luck.

We call that blaming the victims.

This victim had sight in one eye and possibly had a drink. Obviously asking for it.

A motorist whose high-powered Range Rover hit and killed a man on a country road near Glasgow has admitted causing his death by careless driving.

Ross McChrystal, 20, was driving at more than twice the 30mph speed limit when he hit Edward Devlin on the A891 Campsie Road, Lennoxtown, in June 2009

[Boxer6]

However, it doesn't take more than a wander round any city or town centre at night to observe that a significant number of pedestrians are inebriated (on a variety of licit and illicit substances), and will often step out into the road heedless of what may already be there. I have witnessed it myself on a number of occasions, some of which have been friends or work colleagues of mine. Luckily, none of these has resulted in a fatality, but that was due to no more than pure, dumb luck.

We call that blaming the victims.

This victim had sight in one eye and possibly had a drink. Obviously asking for it.

A motorist whose high-powered Range Rover hit and killed a man on a country road near Glasgow has admitted causing his death by careless driving.

Ross McChrystal, 20, was driving at more than twice the 30mph speed limit when he hit Edward Devlin on the A891 Campsie Road, Lennoxtown, in June 2009

Re point 1 - where exactly do we draw the line between "victim" and irresponsible idiot? (And yes, before you ask, I have been that idiot too)

Point 2 - There is NO excuse for drink/drug driving, nor did I ever suggest that there is, or such reckless speeding. I expect the fella referred to, at 20 years old, wasn't insured either.

[north glasgow dave]

what about the cyclists who consider themselves road users..until they come to a set of lights,then they mount the kerb.. this is illegal.
or else they just go through the red light..also illegal.
cyclists want to squeeze through tight spaces between cars..but want half the road to themself when they are being overtaken..
cyclist,s should have numbers on their back,s to reflect their ability on a bike..

think once.think twice.think someone,s having a F**cking laugh.

[The Egg Man]

...........cyclist,s should have numbers on their back,s to reflect their ability on a bike..

.................................

It'd only be a few hours before someone started an on-line league table adding up the points (numbers on the back of) cyclists people had run over.

[the researcher]

what about the cyclists who consider themselves road users..until they come to a set of lights,then they mount the kerb.. this is illegal.
or else they just go through the red light..also illegal.
cyclists want to squeeze through tight spaces between cars..but want half the road to themself when they are being overtaken..
cyclist,s should have numbers on their back,s to reflect their ability on a bike..

think once.think twice.think someone,s having a F**cking laugh.

i would think that mounting the pavement at a red light would only be illegal if the cyclist is still riding his bike however if he was to dismount and wheel the bike to the junction he is intending to travel on then in theory it wouldnt be illegal as most likely by the time he does this the red light which stopped him has returned to green anyway

[Lone Groover]

...........cyclist,s should have numbers on their back,s to reflect their ability on a bike..

.................................

It'd only be a few hours before someone started an on-line league table adding up the points (numbers on the back of) cyclists people had run over.

MAybe they could have coloured shirts and we could play snooker.

[hungryjoe]

...........cyclist,s should have numbers on their back,s to reflect their ability on a bike..

.................................

It'd only be a few hours before someone started an on-line league table adding up the points (numbers on the back of) cyclists people had run over.

MAybe they could have coloured shirts and we could play snooker.

I think 7 points for a black might encourage the wrong sorts.

[Doorstop]

[helpmaboab]

surely not...theese potholes are a serious hazard to cyclists, and everyone knows how hazardous cyclists are..i mean a hazard on two wheels swerving all over the road avoid an inverted hazard..very hazardous....

Aye they could a small dent in your car. Then removing the blood from your windscreen. Possibly increase your insurance and have the police at your door.

All because they swerved to miss a pothole and you were up their arse at the time.

Away and behave yourself. If cyclists choose to use the public highway (such as it is), and why shouldn't they, they are bound by the same rules as every other road user. Suddenly changing direction without warning is bad practice, regardless of the mode of transport. If a cyclist suddenly veers into the path of another road user - tough titty.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314

How many cars obey this rule - "give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car."? See the example image in the above link. If all cars gave cyclists as much room as they are supposed to there would never be such a problem when a cyclist needs to avoid a crater in the few feet out from the kerb. Most drivers simply don't get it unless they too are a cyclist. I'm not saying all cyclists are saints (far from it) but consequences are rather different for cars versus bikes and drivers versus cyclists. A car hitting a pot hole may be a bit of a jolt or a damaged tyre/wheel. A cyclist hitting a pot hole WILL be a damaged wheel or possibly thrown from the bike (onto road or into path of said car up said arse)! The difference between a car swerving and a cyclist swerving can be difference between serious injury or dealth for a cyclist versus a pranged car. tough titty indeed eh!!!

[Boxer6]

surely not...theese potholes are a serious hazard to cyclists, and everyone knows how hazardous cyclists are..i mean a hazard on two wheels swerving all over the road avoid an inverted hazard..very hazardous....

Aye they could a small dent in your car. Then removing the blood from your windscreen. Possibly increase your insurance and have the police at your door.

All because they swerved to miss a pothole and you were up their arse at the time.

Away and behave yourself. If cyclists choose to use the public highway (such as it is), and why shouldn't they, they are bound by the same rules as every other road user. Suddenly changing direction without warning is bad practice, regardless of the mode of transport. If a cyclist suddenly veers into the path of another road user - tough titty.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314

How many cars obey this rule - "give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car."? See the example image in the above link. If all cars gave cyclists as much room as they are supposed to there would never be such a problem when a cyclist needs to avoid a crater in the few feet out from the kerb. Most drivers simply don't get it unless they too are a cyclist. I'm not saying all cyclists are saints (far from it) but consequences are rather different for cars versus bikes and drivers versus cyclists. A car hitting a pot hole may be a bit of a jolt or a damaged tyre/wheel. A cyclist hitting a pot hole WILL be a damaged wheel or possibly thrown from the bike (onto road or into path of said car up said arse)! The difference between a car swerving and a cyclist swerving can be difference between serious injury or dealth for a cyclist versus a pranged car. tough titty indeed eh!!!

The answer to your question is - hardly any, as my horse-riding OH will tell you! (At great length, and with much profanity!)

All this could be avoided, of course, if the government spent more than a tiny fraction of the "Road Tax" on the roads!!!

[north glasgow dave]

all cyclists are fly-men...who are not only a danger to themself and other cyclists..but horses as well..