Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby potatojunkie » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:55 am

Nobby wrote:Problem is Doorstop, chips (or Belgian fries, to give them their proper name) are supposed to be cooked twice. If frozen means the chippie has at least the chance of getting one of those cooking stages right, it can't be a bad thing.

Now, can it?!

Problem is Nobby, Belgian fries (or chips, to give them their proper name) that have been frozen and subsequently fried taste of absolutely bugger all.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby Lone Groover » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:58 pm

Buy some Beef dripping and cook up some chips in that. Heavenly death !
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby hungryjoe » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:55 pm

The chippy round the corner from me uses beef dripping. He's considering changing to vegetable fat as more and more people become veggie.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby Nobby » Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:45 am

potatojunkie wrote:
Nobby wrote:Problem is Doorstop, chips (or Belgian fries, to give them their proper name) are supposed to be cooked twice. If frozen means the chippie has at least the chance of getting one of those cooking stages right, it can't be a bad thing.

Now, can it?!

Problem is Nobby, Belgian fries (or chips, to give them their proper name) that have been frozen and subsequently fried taste of absolutely bugger all.


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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby sunnysider » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:32 pm

Down here in Yorkshire good fish and chips is a bloody religion.

All the good fish and chipperies - a dwindling number it has to be said - fry the chips twice. No reason why they can't in Glasgow.

If they dished up some of the pale white, sluglike, congealed greasy pish I've eaten in Glasgow, they'd likely be firebombed.

And as for the Glasgow violence cliche - try Leeds!
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby Josef » Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:54 pm

I was in Leeds on a Saturday night about a year ago. I thought it was hugely improved from the last time I was there in the eighties, when you virtually needed an armed escort to walk down the street after 7 p.m.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby Nobby » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:41 am

Have never minded Leeds. Or Bradford for that matter. Was first in both about 20 years ago. Went to the opera for the first time during that trip. That was Opera North in Leeds. Can't speak to the chips mind you, but the curry in Bradford was the business. Including one place in an old church which gained a national reputation for its food. So, more than just a cliche.

Leeds was just starting its inner city renovations, including revamping its canal basins, around that time. So was Birmingham, which I used to visit regulalry in the years before. But, all of them a solid ten years or more after Glasgow's Miles Better campaign had been in full swing. In fact, I remember walking past the city chambers for the first time after the scaffolding came down. After passing it every day for months I was half way across George Sq before it struck me that something had changed. Turned round and saw the sandblasted building for the first time. In full sunlight. Magic!

The only one of the "tough cities" that ever gave me an "itch between the shoulder blades" was Newcastle. I'm still a bit watchful when I visit there. No idea why. The last street fight I ever saw was in the US by the way (and the one armed guy won!), so, it's nothing to do with obvious violence. It's just the feel of the place. Glasgow has never felt like that.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby rabmania » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:11 pm

Leeds has always felt safe, a bit tame really, to me. I've had reason to be there for my work, with overnight stays and plenty of time to wander about. The trouble with my observation is that my stays have always been midweek- maybe it goes nuts from Friday night?
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby dave2 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:01 am

having grown up in Newcastle and now living here I;m not anxious in the main areas of either city. But manchester on the other hand scares the bejaesus out of me. It just feels intimidating.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby mairead » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:21 am

For all the bad press Glasgow has had, I have to say that the first time I was caught up in football violence was in Manchester on a Saturday afternoon when I was out shopping.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby Mori » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:55 pm

Herald

Tough new laws to tackle football bigotry unveiled18 Jun 2011

TOUGH new laws targeting racists, bigots and sectarianism at football matches that could lead to offenders being jailed for five years were published by the Scottish Government yesterday.

A new offence of threatening behaviour likely to lead to public disorder could cover not just chants or songs but could involve banners or even T-shirts if they incited religious, racial or homophobic hatred in the eyes of “any reasonable person”.

A second new offence of threatening communications is aimed mainly at the gap in law where violence is implied rather than overtly stated, which would be covered by existing laws.
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby The Egg Man » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:08 pm

From the above

"However, the Law Society of Scotland said the Bill was being pushed through Parliament too quickly and the resulting lack of scrutiny may create legislation open to successful challenge.

Bill McVicar, convener of the society’s criminal law committee, said: “We understand the importance of tackling sectarianism. This is a very serious issue and one that needs both attention and action from our political leaders.

“However, it is because of the importance of this issue that the Scottish Government needs to allow adequate time to ensure the legislation can be properly scrutinised. It is particularly vital for sufficient time to be allowed at stage one, the evidence gathering stage, for proper public consultation.” "

I believe the Faculty of Advocates has similar concerns.

Legislate in haste ............................ :cry:

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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby jodieohdoh » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:37 pm

Quite a few acquaintances of mine allege that the city centre is more dangerous than it used to be. I'm inclined to think that's a mixture of folk getting older & more paranoid and perceiving danger where it isn't, and deeply held racist prejudices. More blacks/Asians/immigrants = more violence. The sentence always begins "I'm no racist, but...". I imagine the tabloid media also has a role to play in people's perceptions of how violent Glasgow is. I've not spent a lot of time there in the last ten years but I must admit I've never felt threatened in the City Centre in my life. EK...well that's another matter. Whose idea was it to build all those flaming roundabouts and underpasses anyway...
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Re: Rain, violence and chips: this is Glasgow,

Postby Bridie » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:28 am

jodieohdoh wrote:Quite a few acquaintances of mine allege that the city centre is more dangerous than it used to be. I'm inclined to think that's a mixture of folk getting older & more paranoid and perceiving danger where it isn't, and deeply held racist prejudices. More blacks/Asians/immigrants = more violence. The sentence always begins "I'm no racist, but...". I imagine the tabloid media also has a role to play in people's perceptions of how violent Glasgow is. I've not spent a lot of time there in the last ten years but I must admit I've never felt threatened in the City Centre in my life. EK...well that's another matter. Whose idea was it to build all those flaming roundabouts and underpasses anyway...

It's always been the case that some of the smaller towns are more violent than the big cities. My theory is that in a smaller town there's less places to go of an evening - I mean where's the culture? and you're more likely to bump into your arch enemy or your cousin :wink:
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