Dialect words and usage

[Quality Mince]

On many a golf course around Scotland, there always seems to be hole called 'ca' canny!!!' It's never the 18th though, that's often called 'Hame'

[rabmania]

Copied over from Annoying Words:
I've always known the outermost slices of bread as 'ootsiders', but does anyone else call a sandwich made from ootsiders a "sore haun"?

I've heard that one - but only ever known one person who said it. Mind you, he did speak a rather unique version of the language... lots of words which only he used....

My dad always, always called an ootsider and jam a 'sore haun'- when I asked (aged 5 ish) why, he explained, the bread looked like bandage and the jam, blood. No one else around ever used the term, and I was a bit ashamed of it, I'm ashamed to say.

[Doorstop]

Copied over from Annoying Words:
I've always known the outermost slices of bread as 'ootsiders', but does anyone else call a sandwich made from ootsiders a "sore haun"?

I've heard that one - but only ever known one person who said it. Mind you, he did speak a rather unique version of the language... lots of words which only he used....

My dad always, always called an ootsider and jam a 'sore haun'- when I asked (aged 5 ish) why, he explained, the bread looked like bandage and the jam, blood. No one else around ever used the term, and I was a bit ashamed of it, I'm ashamed to say.

Not just me, mine and those I know then. Thank Christ for that.

[Autolycus]

I would put my tumbler on the bunker in the kitchen, after my mum said to co'coney(sp?) with the milk

Ca' canny. With Ca' being pronounced caw. And which goes to illustrate the difference between Scots words and regionally-accented pronunciation of English words, btw.

So, would we say ca' canny is a bit like gang warily?

[banjo]

i once had a very strange dream where the whole world was made of bread and all the people on the planet were either plain or pan.the next day i was in the bookies and there was a horse running called the loaf.it was six to four favourite and i put my last tenner on it as it was too good an omen to miss.what won the race ...................................................a big ootsider.

[Lucky Poet]

Dookit

springs to mind just now - we had one in the house for bills etc and lots in the decrept victorian office I started in 1839 as office junior
Has the word got something to do with pigeons as well?

Derived from dovecote, perhaps?

probably
I suppose dialect is part "lazy pronounciation" of certain words?

No no no no!
'Doocot' comes from 'doo' = 'dove'. 'Doo' (while only spelt like that from the 18th century) is first recorded in the late 14th century. It's not a dialect word, and it's certainly not slang.

Scots is in no way a dialect of English. (Just as English is not a dialect of Scots.)

There are dialects of both Scots and English, but that's a different matter.

[Autolycus]

You could argue that a doo is also a pidgeon which is why doocot became pidgeon-hole.

[nuttytigger]

my mum and me have a saying that i have no idea where it came from - The height of a pit bit! i think it means they are wee and the height of a wee dog

[Autolycus]

my mum and me have a saying that i have no idea where it came from - The height of a pit bit! i think it means they are wee and the height of a wee dog

Isn't a pit bit a collier's boot(?)

[nuttytigger]

no idea, was oping someone else knew.

[hungryjoe]

In Ayrshire your boots are still your bits, fermers wearing the curly taed variety.

br-cmr on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:11 pm

munroman wrote:When my sister moved to Harestanes in KIrkintilloch, my aunt from Bridgeton insisted on telling her friends she had moved to Harestones!



Which reminds me of the girl who told her teacher that she had been in town, and a man had collapsed. He apparently had an epileptic foot.

There's a housing estate in Killie (Southcraig) where all of the streets are named after places in Ayrshire. One is named after Portencross, but some planner with a bool in his mooth called it Portingcross Place.

It's a snell wind blaws stracht aff the watter here, so it's best tae keep yer pow covered.


What about the gloriously descriptive fud? Surely worth a thread of it's own?

[Autolycus]

What about the gloriously descriptive fud? Surely worth a thread of it's own?

You (?) seem to have covered it well on Mojo some years ago

[hungryjoe]

What about the gloriously descriptive fud? Surely worth a thread of it's own?

You (?) seem to have covered it well on Mojo some years ago

You are Jimboo, and I claim my fiver.

[floweredpig]

One mild irritant for me has always been the tendency in Glasgow to say A Roll and Bacon or a Roll and Salad rather than a Bacon Roll or a Salad Roll.

And while i am on it Gammon/Ham/Bacon seems to get mixed up in Glasgow.
Where i am from Ham is a cold meat,Gammon is served with Pineapple or Egg and requires grilling and Bacon is,Bacon.A Roll and Gammon therefore is not a Ham Roll.

[Josef]

On the other hand, it avoids confusion when you ask for a Sausage Roll.