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by **Vladimir** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:59 pm

No, national flags are exempt.

The European Union is far more important than any of the little nations in Europe. Also, what is being advertised? How did the trains in France get away with it?

by **Ally Doll** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:03 pm

Vladimir wrote:
No, national flags are exempt.

::): ::): ::): The European Union is far more important than any of the little nations in Europe. Also, what is being advertised? How did the trains in France get away with it?

Did France maybe get some EU funding for the trains? Do they go across national borders? I'm sure there's a money pot for things like that...

There's a European Railways Agency http://www.era.europa.eu/

by **Vladimir** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:31 pm

Most likely they do get EU money, Im sure the railways here do as well, Im just sure they just wouldnt ever put an EU flag on anything... The trains do cross borders a lot, makes sense.

The European Railway Agency in Valenciennes/Lille, France,

by **Alex Glass** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:03 pm

Alycidon wrote:

So who was the councillor???

It wisny me! A didny get electricuted til 1999.

I think Charlie Gordon was the Chair of SPT at that time.

by **Sir Roger DeLodgerley** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:42 pm

Vladimir wrote:
No, national flags are exempt.

::): ::): ::): The European Union is far more important than any of the little nations in Europe. Also, what is being advertised? How did the trains in France get away with it?

It's UK law Vlad (Town and Country Planning Act 1990) and there is probably no equivalent in France hence there is no restriction. The display of flags is controlled by the Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) Regulations 1992. Under Schedule 2 of the Regulations, the national flag of any country, and this includes the Union flag, is exempt from advertisement control provided each flag is flown from a single vertical flagstaff and neither the flag nor the flagstaff display any advertisement additional to the design of the flag.

The European Union Flag is not currently classified as a national flag under the Town and Country (Control of Advertisements) Regulations 1992. I wonder how many local authorities have flown this flag in breach of their own planning regulations.

There may also be some requirement to display the ring of stars on trains which cross EU boders in much the same way as there is a recognised EU licence plate design on cars. Not much call for that though on the 17.20 to Largs. :wink:

Does anyone else enjoy dissecting secondary legislation or is it just me? :oops:

by **Alycidon** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:45 pm

Sir Roger DeLodgerley wrote:There may also be some requirement to display the ring of stars on trains which cross EU boders in much the same way as there is a recognised EU licence plate design on cars. Not much call for that though on the 17.20 to Largs.

There arn't any on the Eurostar sets so I think that you can rule out that requirement.

by **Pripyat** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:55 pm

Alex Glass wrote:It wisny me! A didny get electricuted til 1999.

by **tobester** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:15 pm

Ill gladly add my name to it, as a lover of using trains be good to see one kept in the 'orange' livery.

If they dont then maybe back to the old blu like the old 303s used to be.

p.s. i love trains but am not a train spotter (yet) ::):

by **McShad** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:33 pm

First trains/SPT have a four coach blue train running at the moment in glasgow. 4 coachs in glasgow is rare itself since they normally use multiple of 3

by **james73** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:52 pm

McShad wrote:First trains/SPT have a four coach blue train running at the moment in glasgow. 4 coachs in glasgow is rare itself since they normally use multiple of 3

I think that's one of the class 322 EMU's that run from Glasgow to North
Berwick via Carstairs.

James H

by **McShad** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:14 pm

I remember seeing it a few times sitting in the shieldhall yard.... it was just last week was the first time I saw it in service. No idea where it was going, but it was on the western side of the tracks implying paisley or returning to sheildhall

by **My Kitten** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:09 pm

by **yoker brian** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:17 pm

james73 wrote:I think that's one of the class 322 EMU's that run from Glasgow to North Berwick via Carstairs.

It's been on the 7:05am GLasgow Central - North Berwick service almost every morning for the last 2 weeks - not a train spotter

just use this train every day

by **crazygray23** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:34 pm

cant remember where i read it but spt are painting more of the underground trains in the new livery also ideally id like the old color scheme on the subway to stay also, perhaps a modernised version....... slowly strathclyde orange is dissapearing i wasnt a great fan of it but i appreciate the historical value of it

by **lordsleek** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:01 pm

whewe glad I read the thread cos it seemed from the title a bit one side 1690 and all that :wink:

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