Buses Today

[RDR]

Reliability is a big factor as well.
No point of me using public transport if it simply doesn't turn up or is delayed and I've a number of calls to make.
A bigger problem with the trains I think, though.

Reliability

Scotrail

Thanks, that's interesting.

Depending on which set of figures you take and puncuality can be as bad as simply not turning up if you have an onward connection, and given the number of services Scotrail runs, then an average 9% of their services that don't run to time in Strathclyde is an awful lot.

Did you read the exclusions from the stats as well? Sounds like they can also not put a number of issues into the overall stats if they use the exclusions reasons.

A quick check on the 'Worst' Glasgow site, though doesn't suggest they publish comparable stats, unless there is some bus industry standard that I'm not aware of.

As an aside I think the airline industry is even worse but it never gets the focus on lateness that trains and buses do.

[RDR]

Reliability is a big factor as well.
No point of me using public transport if it simply doesn't turn up or is delayed and I've a number of calls to make.
A bigger problem with the trains I think, though.

Try using First Bus No 8 Carmyle to Partick. Worst bus service in Glasgow, bar none. If it does turn up (one every half hour) it's usually late. Terrible service. And it doesn't run a full service on a Sunday or in the evenings.

The 201 out here is every bit as bad, after 18:00. It links Monklands Hospital with Hairmyers Hospital and is therefore used by a lot of people for visiting relatives in hospital and is frequently late or cancelled.

[scott125]

Reliability is a big factor as well.
No point of me using public transport if it simply doesn't turn up or is delayed and I've a number of calls to make.
A bigger problem with the trains I think, though.

Try using First Bus No 8 Carmyle to Partick. Worst bus service in Glasgow, bar none. If it does turn up (one every half hour) it's usually late. Terrible service. And it doesn't run a full service on a Sunday or in the evenings.

The 201 out here is every bit as bad, after 18:00. It links Monklands Hospital with Hairmyers Hospital and is therefore used by a lot of people for visiting relatives in hospital and is frequently late or cancelled.

I agree i used to commute on the 201 and it dies a death after 6pm . I see there is deckers on it now at times but was often overcrowded .

[Mori]

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[busdriver]

Yet another sad but avoidable incident this morning on Argyle Street/Queen Street junction. In the "trade" there is a reason why this is called suicide corner, people simply do not have the patience to stop and wait for the green man it only takes 30 seconds yet folks still rush across. Hopefully this one will not turn out to be a tragedy.


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[Fossil]

I'v got a picture of the very same corner a few years back with a guy stuck under the wheels of a bus

[Dexter St. Clair]

Yet another sad but avoidable incident this morning on Argyle Street/Queen Street junction. In the "trade" there is a reason why this is called suicide corner, people simply do not have the patience to stop and wait for the green man it only takes 30 seconds yet folks still rush across. Hopefully this one will not turn out to be a tragedy.


http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/108840-majo ... wn-by-bus/[/url]

Aye. Ye'd think bus driver sould think twice about turning as they say in the trade. Driving a large chunk of metal on wheels gives one a certain amount of responsibility for assessing the risk element.

[Mori]

I'v got a picture of the very same corner a few years back with a guy stuck under the wheels of a bus

I thnk ive seen a youtube video of something like that as well Fossil, i'll try and locate it ...it might be on HG somewhere if memory serves me right.

[Dexter St. Clair]

Not a good day for bus drivers and their companies.

Defects found on buses taking pupils to Blair Drummond Safari Park
Nine buses being used to take school pupils to a safari park were taken off the road after police found serious mechanical defects on the vehicles.

Fifteen drivers were also found to be working in excess of their hours or unable to prove the hours they had worked, and were not allowed to drive until they had had a sufficient rest period

[Josef]

Fifteen drivers were also found to be working in excess of their hours or unable to prove the hours they had worked, and were not allowed to drive until they had had a sufficient rest period

What's the score with that, anyway? I'm fully in agreement with the maximum periods and all that, but the practical impact appears to be that they kick all the passengers off the bus at the deadline, and then carry on driving the bus to the depot anyway.

A bit like those Number 9s that terminate at 'Paisley West End' but then carry on to Linwood Depot in any case.

[hound dog]

Yet another sad but avoidable incident this morning on Argyle Street/Queen Street junction. In the "trade" there is a reason why this is called suicide corner, people simply do not have the patience to stop and wait for the green man it only takes 30 seconds yet folks still rush across. Hopefully this one will not turn out to be a tragedy.

I was in town this morning and I'd wondered what had happened - the area was taped off and the place was swarming with police and photos were being taken of the bus etc. At first I thought it had been a crash but there was only the bus and it looked fine. Then I saw on the BBC website that a pedestrian had been injured - said he had "head injuries" but that his condition was not known.

Aye. Ye'd think bus driver sould think twice about turning as they say in the trade. Driving a large chunk of metal on wheels gives one a certain amount of responsibility for assessing the risk element.

I would have thought that deciding to cross the road at a busy junction in the city centre when the lights are at green puts a certain amount of responsibility on pedestrians to assess the risk element

[Dexter St. Clair]

Nope.

[pingu]

if you get knocked down on the road(the place where big metal things are travelling at speed) its your own fault.

if you get knocked down on the pavement(where people should be unless crossing "when safe to do so") its the bus drivers fault

[The Egg Man]

I'm constantly astonished, even though I know I no longer should be, at the number of passengers, many a wee bit unsteady on their feet through age or infirmity, who insist on standing up and making for the door on a 9 or a 62 hurtling up St Vincent St towards the lights at Pitt St and cling on as if their lives depend upon it whilst the bus negotiates the corners into Pitt St and the into West George St.

[Josef]

if you get knocked down on the road(the place where big metal things are travelling at speed) its your own fault.

if you get knocked down on the pavement(where people should be unless crossing "when safe to do so") its the bus drivers fault

I've never read the Highway Code (having never even remotely considered becoming a driver), but I'm sure a colleague at work once told me that according to it the minute someone sets foot on a road they have right of way.

Not that I'm advocating wandering across roads with your eyes shut, but if that's true then it implies that the onus is on the driver to take care in areas of human density (possibly in all senses of the word, but hey).