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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Bernie » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:34 pm

Search the bloody lot of them, if you have nothing to hide you needn't worried!
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Doorstop » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:40 pm

That sentiment is short sighted at best, foolhardy at worst.
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Peetabix » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:58 pm

Doorstop wrote:That sentiment is short sighted at best, foolhardy at worst.


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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Mark N » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:43 pm

Bernie wrote:Search the bloody lot of them,


Who are "them" - and conversely, who are "us" ?
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby floweredpig » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:45 pm

Mark N wrote:
Bernie wrote:Search the bloody lot of them,


Who are "them" - and conversely, who are "us" ?
Ask Pink Floyd.Or is that the other way around?
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby oldphilosophy » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:42 pm

Peetabix wrote:
Doorstop wrote:That sentiment is short sighted at best, foolhardy at worst.


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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Excalibur » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:50 pm

yoker brian wrote:
Mori wrote:Stop-and-search blitz over armed thugs and drugs

A strong police presence will be visible in and around Glasgow city centre

Stop-and-search blitz over armed thugs and drugs
Suspected criminals will be stopped and searched on their way into Glasgow city centre tomorrow in a bid to target lawlessness and anti-social behaviour.

More than 160 additional officers from Strathclyde Police and the British Transport Police (BTP) will use metal detectors to target known troublemakers and suspects, whether they are in cars or using public transport.


Great, brilliant use of taxpayers money - it's about time the authorities clamped down on the criminal element that blights the City Centre but can anyone tell me where these 160 extra police officers are on the remaining 50 Friday & Saturday nights of the year?

It's not just the criminal element, but there is a high level of anti-social behaviour, and blatant abuse / lack of respect for the law within the city centre, I also think the number of licensed premises needs to be looked at with stricter controls in place - I believe that Within the ½ mile square area of Glasgow City Centre there are more than 580 licensed premises including 400 pubs and 70 night-clubs, restaurants and hotels.


Most of the officers that work within the city centre limits on friday and saturday nights are based within the city centre division. Officers on late shifts are also taken from the other sub-divisions (Anderston, Partick and Drumchapel) within that division to patrol the city centre.

The remainder are drawn from other divisions and consist of officers who volunteer to work on their days off. The money for that is provided by the council I believe. Originally a sum of money was set aside in order to clean up the city centre in advance of the Commonwealth Games announcement, in order to portray Glasgow in a good light. With the economy in the state it is, and the fact that Glasgow has won the games, I don't believe that as many officers are working there nowadays.

If you feel as strongly as you appear to do on the subject of wasting taxpayers money, any suggestions you have on how better to use it would be gratefully received by your local police office I'd imagine.
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Excalibur » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:54 pm

fourbytwo wrote::cry: ....in other words, the Police are getting fly to the fact that when they are 'going over the top' with such searches, many are just an excuse to levy power over the public....they are objecting to the possibility of someone taking a photo or video showing them 'up to their tricks'....


What are "their tricks?"


Wonder if the policeman who brutely beat the protestor in London, probably causing his death...would have been reprimanded had the scene NOT been videoed by a member of the public...


Do you believe then that all police officers are doing the exact same every chance they get, and the only thing stopping them from being punished is the lack of video evidence?

Remember to watch just who is being stopped at these barriers.....just because you wear a hooded top or denims, does not make you undesirable...or does it..?
People guilty of stabbings and assault at pubs and nightclubs, do not get into such premises wearing these clothes, so who gets in...and how do you single them out for attention...that's where the fascist attitudes of many policemen are allowed free reign...however....

If the Police are stating that most of the city centre problems are eminating from train travellers, then by all means search away.....but I for one will stop travelling by rail, in case I meet any of these 'hardened crimals'... ::):


A well balance and thought provoking analysis as always :roll:
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby glasgowken » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:06 pm

The red light thingy went off when I went through one of the barriers, but they didn't stop me. I must look too respectable ::):
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Lone Groover » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:50 pm

Mark N wrote:
Bernie wrote:Search the bloody lot of them,


Who are "them" - and conversely, who are "us" ?


Could you be one of 'those' ?
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Josef » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:11 pm

You'd have liked todays's Steve Bell cartoon, Excalibur. :wink:


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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Doorstop » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:01 pm

Lone Groover wrote:
Mark N wrote:
Bernie wrote:Search the bloody lot of them,


Who are "them" - and conversely, who are "us" ?


Could you be one of 'those' ?


I think you're one of 'those', Groover mate .. or maybe you're one of 'them'.

I can never make my mind up. :D
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Mark N » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:06 pm

Lone Groover wrote:Could you be one of 'those' ?

Not sure, but I've been referred to as 'one of them' many a time ::):
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby yoker brian » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:35 pm

Excalibur wrote:If you feel as strongly as you appear to do on the subject of wasting taxpayers money, any suggestions you have on how better to use it would be gratefully received by your local police office I'd imagine.


I don't think it's a waste of taxpayers money - It is a great idea but to me it seems a bit like a fishing trip, instead of a more pro-active sustained hi-visibility policing strategy to clean up the streets - I have seen the changes made since the new chief constable came into office - and he is to be applauded for his tough stance on gangs and anti social behaviour , but one off events like Friday night's will only clear the problem for the period of the operation - it needs to be sustained on a longer term basis.

This isn't just down to the police - they need the support of the courts, as well as local and national government to help clean up the streets.
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Re: Glasgow Central Stop and Search

Postby Lone Groover » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:34 am

Doorstop wrote:
Lone Groover wrote:
Mark N wrote:
Bernie wrote:Search the bloody lot of them,


Who are "them" - and conversely, who are "us" ?


Could you be one of 'those' ?


I think you're one of 'those', Groover mate .. or maybe you're one of 'them'.

I can never make my mind up. :D




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