Tenements with Lifts

[Jazza]

Does anyone know of any tenements in Glasgow with a lift?

I am thinking more domestic buildings than office as I know there are plenty office blocks in town with the old slidey-manual-door lifts.

Also, for anyone with engineering skills, could a lift be installed in the central stair well and how much might it cost? I was thinking in relation to the value of some flats the cost of a lift might not be too bad - although you might not get the lower floor agreeing.

[elgee]

There are new tenements in Scotstoun/Whiteinch around Methil St or Sctorstoun St that have lifts but if you mean traditional sandstone lifts , no I dont know of any with lifts

[gordon]

There's a renovation job on the corner of Athole Gardens and Saltoun St that i believe has a lift in it. Although its a massive job - im not sure how much of the original fabric is left, so its a bit misleading.

[viceroy]

Likewise I have never heard of a traditional domestic tenement with a lift. Also, the stairs going up to each half landing are always close together so you would not have enough room within the stairwell for the stairs and a lift. Presumably a set of stairs would need to be available for safety reasons.

[gordon]

Aye, you'd definitely need both.

[crusty_bint]

I certainly don't think there were any (traditional) tenements built with lifts... sadly. I honestly couldnt say how much it would cost to install one in a stairwell as it would depend on the type of lift mechanism, size and arrangement of the stairwell etc but i dare say it wouldnt be cheap! You could get a roughh idea from a SPONS catalogue and such like (some libraries have copies) but at a guess you'd probably be £30-40 grand for the lift itself plus another £10-20 grand (easily) for the preperation and remedial works involved before and after installation. Add to that annual maintenance costs, which could be hundreds dependant on how many flats are in the close.

Good question though! I wondered about this myself when I lived in a 5 storey tenement a couple of years ago. Would be interested to know more... Socceroo???

[Socceroo]

Great guess Crusty. We'll make an estimator of you yet. 4 - 5 storey lift is about £70K.

I think there is some of the big Mansions in the West End with private Otis Lifts which were put in when they were converting to electricity around 1900. I read it somewhere in a book. I'll have a look later.

I am unaware of any Tenements with them unless some of the Tenemental Mansion Blocks had them?

[elgee]

Kelvin Court has teeeny wee lifts that holds about 2 people

[scallopboy]

Kelvin Court has teeeny wee lifts that holds about 2 people

And the ones at the back hold about 1/2 a person.

[Josef]

Kelvin Court has teeeny wee lifts that holds about 2 people

And the ones at the back hold about 1/2 a person.

Scallops on the half-shell?

[Sydney Rosewater]

One close in Allan Street, Dalmarnock had a lift in it, and had four flats on each landing. Demolished now though.

[The_Clincher]

There are new build "tenement style" flats at the end of Falkland Street in Hyndland that have lifts in them.

[Fireman]

Living and working all my life in Glasgow I have never come across a lift built into a traditional style tenement, either originally when it was built or later on in its life.

I have however come across an "up & downstairs" flat in a tenement - which caused us no end of confusion.

[Sydney Rosewater]

Living and working all my life in Glasgow I have never come across a lift built into a traditional style tenement, either originally when it was built or later on in its life.

I have however come across an "up & downstairs" flat in a tenement - which caused us no end of confusion.

The one i mentioned above was in an old traditional style tenement in Allan st. Wether it was added later or originally there i dont know. It was a modern lift, maybe they used the original open stair well for the shaft at some later date.

[Bingo Bango]

generally all new build residential will require a lift.

some strange little lifts are available, for example i am using one on a project that will be slid in to the existing shaft to provide disabled access up to 2nd floor of a refurb.

in reality, this would probably extend to 3 tenement type floors as the floor to floor is rather high. this has the benefit of not requiring a machine room at the top (which would obviously look daft on a tenement pitched roof and would also likely be a planning issue) and only requires the minimum of ground works to minimise foundation work in your tenement which would obviously be expensive and require an engineer.

other more conventional lifts (passenger type as opposed to disabled) will require a pit and although they may say they are 'machine room-less' they still have a protrusion through the roof (well, 3600mm roughly from the final floor level to the top of the lift shaft.