River Clyde Regeneration

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Postby potatojunkie » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:24 am

I think that one might actually look okay elsewhere. Smooth surfaces and gentle curves would be a little more in-keeping with the surroundings, though.
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Postby mr moto » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:40 am

i do not have a problem with glass itself , it,s just that there are so many buildings that just look identical to those pictured above going up ALL OVER glasgow currently , ie bland, all straight edges , box like ,almost featureless ,in other words unattractive at best, and just so BORING . i was in cologne,germany last year, and cologne airport is almost entirely built from glass, complete with some glass floors , i thought it looked amazing 8)
i guess most of the blame lies with developers who only care about making a profit, and truly do not give a damn about covering glasgow in so bloody many plain dull ,ugly, unattractive identikit flat pack boxes...rant mode off :)
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Postby Bingo Bango » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:12 pm

mr moto wrote:i do not have a problem with glass itself , it,s just that there are so many buildings that just look identical to those pictured above going up ALL OVER glasgow currently , ie bland, all straight edges , box like ,almost featureless ,in other words unattractive at best, and just so BORING . i was in cologne,germany last year, and cologne airport is almost entirely built from glass, complete with some glass floors , i thought it looked amazing 8)
i guess most of the blame lies with developers who only care about making a profit, and truly do not give a damn about covering glasgow in so bloody many plain dull ,ugly, unattractive identikit flat pack boxes...rant mode off :)


fair enough, although IMO the real building next to the proposed ones here is the bogger - chuck as many materials as possible at it and add a few curves for the sake of it.

thats the building i would take exception to, not these ones.....
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Postby SSH » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:38 am

There is an interesting post on the Scottish Architecture website, by an Architect about the Clyde Redevelopment.

Who is responsible for the disgrace that is being heralded as the "regeneration" of the Clyde?

We were passing big shiny standalone buildings where formerly there had been a series of shipyards. More big shiny housing. Vast car parks. More big shiny buildings. Big gaps. Remaining shipyard. Another standalone building with vast car park.

And hardly a soul on the bank to be seen.



http://www.scottisharchitecture.com/blog/read/443
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Postby Mori » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:36 pm

GCC Item 4 57 pages


RIVER CLYDE FLOOD MANAGEMENT STRATEGY PROGRESS REPORT
AND
PRESENTATION OF RIVER CORRIDOR SUPPLEMENTARY DEVELOPMENT GUIDE


Purpose of Report
The purpose of this report is to advise Committee of the progress of the River Clyde Flood Management
Strategy commission and to present, for approval, the River Corridor Supplementary Development Guide

Recommendations
I recommend that Committee:
i) notes the progress of the River Clyde Flood management Strategy project; and,
ii) Approves the River Corridor Supplementary Development Guide for issue as a document which
gives guidance for new developments on the River Clyde.

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Postby Mori » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:54 am

Masterplans for Public realms @ lancefield and Anderston Quays :D


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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Mori » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:21 pm

Evening Times

Luxury hotel plan for historic Pump House

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A HISTORIC building on the banks of the Clyde could be turned into a luxury hotel and restaurant.
The Pump House, near the SECC in Glasgow, has been run as the museum of the Maritime Trust since 1999.
In 2010, the Trust will move to a new £74million museum of transport, which will replace the Transport Museum at Kelvin Hall.Glasgow Harbour, the organisation behind a multi-million pound riverside development, wants to buy the Pump House building and turn it into a boutique hotel and restaurant.


Item 11

Proposed Disposal of the Pump House at SECC

Purpose of Report:
To seek authority from the Committee to the proposed method of disposal of the Pump House at
the SECC to Glasgow Harbour Limited.

Recommendations:
It is recommended that the Committee:
a) Authorises the Executive Director of Development and Regeneration Services to dispose
of the Pump House at the SECC to Glasgow Harbour Limited;
b) Agrees to the distribution of the capital receipts between the Council and SEC Limited as
proposed in the report;
c) Notes that outcome of the negotiations will be reported to the DRS Policy Development
and Scrutiny Committee in the quarterly report on property transactions.

1. BACKGROUND
1.1 As part of a programme of initiatives designed to provide financial stability to the Clyde
Maritime Trust the Council purchased the Pump House from the Trust in 2002 granted it a
concessionary lease of the property for the period ending 2010 and agreed to provide an
annual grant towards its operating costs of £450,000 per annum.
1.2 The purchase price paid by the Council was considerably less than the open market value
of the property, and reflected a condition in the sale which limited its use to a Maritime
Museum together with uses which were ancillary to this. This restriction remains in place
and can only be lifted by SEC Limited (which originally owned the building), and which
placed this restriction on the Maritime Trust when it originally took ownership.
1.3 The Maritime Trust will relocate to the new Transport museum site when it opens in 2010.
At that time the museum use will cease and the building will be surplus to the Council’s
requirements. The restrictive conditions will however remain in place, and the Council will
therefore be unable to dispose of the site for any other use without the conditions being
lifted by SEC Limited.
1.4 Glasgow Harbour Limited have requested the Council to dispose of the building on an “off
market” basis given that it is the adjacent owner, and that it is willing to invest a
considerable sum of money in the building to bring it back into use as a potential “boutique”
style hotel and restaurant. Discussions with SEC Limited have resulted in their agreement
to lift the restrictive conditions on the property subject to them receiving an appropriate
share of the eventual purchase price. It is proposed therefore that the site is disposed of to
Glasgow Harbour Limited at its open market value, as assessed by an independent
surveyor (still to be appointed), on the following basis:
a) The Council shall receive a first payment of £450,000 (with interest on this amount
from the period 2002-2009), which represents the price which the Council paid for the
property; and
b) The difference between £450,000, plus interest, and the final gross sales price will be
equally divided between the Council and SECC Limited.
c) The lease which permits Clyde Maritime Trust, and their sub-tenants, to operate from
the property will be extended to coincide with the completion of their new facility at the
Transport Museum.
1.5 SERVICE IMPLICATIONS
Financial: The proposal will generate a capital receipt for the Council.
Legal: The Council will require to enter into a sales agreement with SECC Limited
and Glasgow Harbour Limited.
Personnel: None.
Service Plan: The proposal is in line with the DRS Service Plan priority on riverside
regeneration and tourism development.
Environmental: The proposal will lead to the early refurbishment of a listed building and
prevent it falling into disuse.
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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Mori » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:19 pm

Hmmm how realistic is this scheme? or just another Flash in the pan.

Daily Record

Call to build £100m Scottish Museum of War

Jul 29 2008

AN EX-SOLDIER has launched a campaign to build Scotland's first war museum.
Former Scots Guard James Percy wants to see a £100million attraction on the River Clyde.
James, 52, and his wife Mary-Jane, 42, have received backing from First Minister Alex Salmond for a museum to rival London's Imperial War Museum.
MPs and MSPs from across the political spectrum have also given their support.
The couple have formed the group Military Heritage Scotland and are fundraising for a feasibility study.
James, from Glasgow, wants to see a world-class floating museum built at Govan docks next to Glasgow Science Centre.
Visitors would be able to board a Navy destroyer ship, submarine and landing craft as well as explore tanks and planes.
James, a group trustee, said: "There is nowhere in Scotland dedicated to honouring the contribution made by this country in conflicts.
"This country has a proud military history and this museum would show that."
The steering group chairman is Professor Gordon Murray from Strathclyde University's School of Architecture and Jon-Marc Creaney of leading architects GCA also supports the plans.
He said: "Govan would be first choice for a truly world-class, multi-media museum."
Other potential locations include Rosyth, Fife, or Leith docks, near Edinburgh.
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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Sunflower » Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:38 pm

Squiggly (oh I hate myself) Bridge deck piece hanging around at Prince's Dock yesterday:
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Meanwhile
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Cormorants hanging around on the pontoon
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Heron hanging around in Festival Park

About Festival Park (last vestige of the Garden Festival) - the ponds and stream are getting more and more clogged with unsuitable vegetation since the water stopped flowing. I've done the email-the-councillors thing, the three ruling party members didn't find time to reply, the other one replied that apparently the pump failed a while back (lots of months) and they're trying to find the right bit. Ho-hum. I half suspect a conspiracy to let the place deteriorate till the only solution is to hand it all over to a developer (fat chance now anyway), but since other signs point to the council not being to organise its way out of a paper bag it's more likely the usual cock-up.

Anybody here know a suitable fulcrum, and abe to apply some leverage to get something done? Otherwise no tadpoles next spring for the kiddies to delight in.

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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Mori » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:48 pm

Item 1A ( 20 pages )

APPLICATION 08/02616/DC

DATE VALID 08.10.2008

SITE ADDRESS
Glasgow College Of Nautical Studies 21 Thistle Street Glasgow G5 9XA

PROPOSAL
Erection of Seamanship and Rescue Centre (new building), refurbishment of existing
Seamanship Centre and erection of link bridge to new building, construction of pontoon,bridge and lifeboat launch tower.

APPLICANT
New Campus Glasgow
300 Cathedral Street
Glasgow G1 2TA

AGENT
Building Design Partnership
15 Exchange Place
GLASGOW G1 3AN

WARD NO(S) 08, Southside Central

COMMUNITY COUNCIL
02_099, Hutchesontown

CONSERVATION AREA
Central Area LISTED B

ADVERT TYPE
Bad Neighbour Development

PUBLISHED 17 October 2008
CITY PLAN
Civic, Hospitals and Tertiary Education

Proposal

An application for planning permission was received on 30 September 2008 and was validated on the 8 October
2008 following receipt of the non statutory Environmental Appraisal detailed above. The proposal is for the
construction of a new building with access ramp, the refurbishment of the existing Seamanship Centre building
and the installation of a link ramp between the two buildings. Included is the construction of a lifeboat launch
tower in the River Clyde, a new pontoon and associated access bridge.

SITE AND DESCRIPTION

The site is located on the south bank of the River Clyde adjacent to the Glasgow College of Nautical Studies
and between the Category ‘B’ listed City Union Railway Bridge and the Category ‘A’ listed Albert Bridge. An
area of 887 square metres on the south of the river adjacent to the existing Glasgow College of Nautical Studies
has been identified for the development. This site encompasses the existing single storey Seamanship Centre,
a section of the River Clyde and grassed river banks.
The south of the site is bounded by the Clyde Walkway which runs adjacent to the Glasgow College of Nautical
Studies. The existing campus at this location comprises a mix of 2-storey buildings together with the highly
visible ‘tower’ of the College. The adjacent Clyde walkway (Adelphi Street) is relatively well used and connects
the Central Mosque and Sheriff Courts to the west with Crown Street and the Albert Bridge to the east.
The existing Seamanship Centre, with a footprint of approximately 480 square metres, comprises a single
storey building located on the river bank and a deck extending over the river. The deck is supported by
concrete piers and provides launch facilities for lifeboats and other craft and a crane/winch for retrieving boats
from the water. Access to the building is from the Clyde walkway (Adelphi Street) and from 3 overhead links
which traverse the footpath. A temporary pontoon is located in the river to the west of the building.
The north of the site is defined by a pedestrian walkway adjacent to Clyde Street. Grassed banks run from the
walkway to the river. Clyde Street at this location is occupied by Hope House (hostel accommodation provided
by the Salvation Army) and lanes leading to Paddy’s Market at the Briggait and the Category ‘A’ listed Justiciary
Court Buildings.
The nearest bridge to the site is the Albert Bridge, which lies approximately 22 metres to the east of the
proposed lifeboat launch tower followed by the Pipe Bridge and the Weir. The City Union Railway Bridge lies
approximately 80 metres to the west of the existing Seamanship Centre.
The table below indicates the succession of bridges from west to east and the relative location of the proposed
new development.

BRIDGE

Millennium Footbridge
Bells Footbridge
Clyde Arc
Kingston Bridge
Proposed IFSD Tradeston Footbridge
George the Fifth Bridge
Caledonian Railway Bridges
Glasgow Bridge
South Portland Street Suspension Bridge
Victoria Bridge
City Union Railway Bridge
Proposed Lifeboat Launch Tower and associated pontoon and access bridge
Albert Bridge
Tidal Weir and Pipe Bridge
St Andrew’s Suspension Bridge


Although both the Millennium Footbridge and the Bells Footbridge are capable of opening to allow the passage
of large or tall river vessels, the Clyde Arc is a fixed structure. With an air draught clearance of 5.4 metres at
Mean High Water Spring tide, this bridge effectively limits the passage of such larger vessels east of this point.
The river along the stretch adjacent to the Glasgow College of Nautical Studies is currently used for business
and leisure purposes. The existing Seamanship Centre provides river based training facilities for students at the
College and also for the Strathclyde Fire and Rescue and Diving Services.

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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Mori » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:55 pm

Bridge project is wrapped up

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THE newest bridge over the Clyde at Glasgow has been wrapped up for Christmas - to allow it to be welded and painted.
Contractors covered the Tradeston Bridge - or Squiggly Bridge - with a tarpaulin after the main sections had all been lowered into place.
Fins and hand rails were also installed on the pedestrian footbridge which will link Tradeston with Broomielaw.
It will now be several months before the bridge will be seen by the public again. By that time it will have been painted and be only weeks away from its official opening.
The crossing - so-called because of its S-shaped design - has been dogged by financial wrangles.
It is the centrepiece of a £33million project to give the rundown area a massive facelift.
Two years ago Glasgow City Council ordered the designers to go back to the drawing board after costs soared above £60m.
The main contractor for the bridge is BAM Nuttall - which was also responsible for the Squinty Bridge.
Sections of the bridge surface were assembled in Invergordon, Easter Ross, and taken to the Clyde by coastal freighter. They were then carried by barge from Prince's Dock and lowered into place by crane.
Luxury flats are due to be built on the Tradeston side of the river and it is hoped to include riverside cafes, restaurants and shops.
The Broomielaw side is being marketed as the International Financial Services District.

Publication date 15/12/08
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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Mori » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:22 pm

Item 7 ( 5 Pages )

27th January 2009

The River Clyde Waterbus / Ferry Study

Purpose of Report:
To advise Committee of the findings of a study into the use of the River Clyde for Waterbus / Ferry Services

Recommendations:
That Committee notes the recommendations made in the report.

5. STUDY CONCLUSIONS
5.1 The study concluded that the optimum service provision would have the following 4 elements:
Outer area express 1, Dunoon –Gourock – Greenock – Dumbarton – Bowling
Outer area express 2, Helensburgh – Bowling
Inner area express, Bowling – Erskine – Clydebank – Braehead – Central Glasgow
Inner area stopping, Yoker – Braehead – Glasgow Harbour – Govan – SECC – Springfield Quay – Central Glasgow.
These services would require a total of 9 vessels for the express routes and 4 vessels for the stopping service.
5.2 Implementation of the recommended waterbus services would:
• significantly improve accessibility between the north and south banks of the river
• play a key role as part of a world class and integrated public transport network in the Glasgow conurbation
• support ongoing regeneration activities on the waterfront
• encourage modal shift
• support the Commonwealth Games 2014




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The Pride O' The Clyde ceased river sailings in October 2007 when she was moved to Loch Katrine
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Re: River Clyde Regeneration

Postby Anorak » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:12 pm

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The new Tradeston Bridge will follow the line of the old York Street Ferry which crossed the river from West Street to York Street through most of the Victorian era.
It will, of course, span the Clyde in a much more squiggly fashion!

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The 1850’s map shows both sides of the Clyde heavily built up with goods sheds along the quaysides and large warehouses in the streets behind.

A close-up look at the end of the century shows mirror-image landing points on either side of the river. There are steps going down to where the cranes stood for loading and unloading. The ferry must have carried goods?
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There are lots of pubs at both ends of the crossing. A little bit more life to the area than you would find today.

Does anyone know when the new bridge will be open?
All I could find was vague references to Spring 2009.
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Alan Dunlop chucks the dummy.

Postby onyirtodd » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:28 am

Juvenile architect Alan Dunlop has resigned from the editorial board of Prospect magazine in a row over the judging of its annual Carbuncle Awards. Glasgow Harbour was described as "one of the best examples of atrocious late 20th Century developer-led nonsense".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7854544.stm


Comment on Fat Pat and the Toy Boy's suggests the place is falling down as well as being an eyesore.
238 to 127. All in all a good afternoon's work
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