First in the Gorbals

[john4703]

I've seen some new building in the old goods years in the Gorbals. There are Fs on the fence so it must be something that First Bus or First Trains are doing. I can't see any train tracks so it is probably a first bus project but I wonder exactly what is being built. Does anyone know?

[moonbeam]

They used this as a depot for shuttle buses to the Olympic games football at Hampden so it might be as a shuttle depot for the Commonwealth Games.

[john4703]

They used this as a depot for shuttle buses to the Olympic games football at Hampden so it might be as a shuttle depot for the Commonwealth Games.

the extent of buildings look as if it is far more than a base for a short term shuttle bus station but we will wit and see

[mercury]

Is it not a replacement depot for Larkfield?

[busdriver]

Is it not a replacement depot for Larkfield?

Yes, expected to open this year.

Link

[RDR]

What's the intention for Larkfield depot once First quit it?

[yoker brian]

What's the intention for Larkfield depot once First quit it?

From the Council newsletter sorry Evening Times from last year

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/news ... t.14689666

A £20m retail and cinema development will create 400 new jobs in one of Scotland's most deprived areas while safeguarding hundreds of others.

A planning notice has been submitted for a mixed development at the former First Bus Larkfield depot in Govanhill in the south side of Glasgow.

The plans include a 6000sq-ft superstore and petrol station with the rest of the site used for a cinema, offices, care home or community facilities.

A number of supermarkets are understood to be interested in the Govanhill site, which is being developed by First Group and Park Lane Land Ltd.

The notice can be lodged for 12 weeks to allow for public consultation before a formal planning application is lodged with Glasgow City Council.

Original proposals for the Larkfield site, at the junction of Victoria Road and Butterbiggins Road, centred on new housing but were shelved amid the economic downturn.

A planning application was lodged last year for a 10,000 sq ft superstore but this has now been scaled down to incorporate other elements and it will now occupy two-thirds of the site.

A new £25m modernised bus depot, maintenance centre and administrative HQ is being created by First on Cathcart Road. Plans for the new depot, and the future of around 600 First Group jobs, were dependant on the sale of the Govanhill site.

Brian Clarke, managing director of Park Lane Land Ltd, said: "We do feel that it is a very good development for the area.

"We have taken account of feedback from the public and we are reducing the size of the store which leaves an area of the site free.

"We are keeping an open mind about what it could be used for but have already been approached by a cinema group."

A spokesman for First said it will deliver improved public transport services for the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games.

A spokesman for Glasgow City Council said: "A proposal of application notice has been posted for a proposed development at the bus garage site in Butterbiggins Road.

"The proposal is for a superstore, petrol filling station, car-wash, offices, care home, community facilities, cinema and access."

Last year, efforts to improve Govanhill included the setting up of an enforcement squad to root out slum landlords in the area, backed by £300,000 government funding.

The team will be made up of council staff, police and fire officers with the funding to last for two years.

A public exhibition on the new development will be at the Govanhill Neighbourhood Centre on Daisy Street on August 23 from 11am-7pm.

[Guacho]

What's the intention for Larkfield depot once First quit it?

From the Council newsletter sorry Evening Times from last year

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/news ... t.14689666

A £20m retail and cinema development will create 400 new jobs in one of Scotland's most deprived areas while safeguarding hundreds of others.

A planning notice has been submitted for a mixed development at the former First Bus Larkfield depot in Govanhill in the south side of Glasgow.

The plans include a 6000sq-ft superstore and petrol station with the rest of the site used for a cinema, offices, care home or community facilities.

A number of supermarkets are understood to be interested in the Govanhill site, which is being developed by First Group and Park Lane Land Ltd.

The notice can be lodged for 12 weeks to allow for public consultation before a formal planning application is lodged with Glasgow City Council.

Original proposals for the Larkfield site, at the junction of Victoria Road and Butterbiggins Road, centred on new housing but were shelved amid the economic downturn.

A planning application was lodged last year for a 10,000 sq ft superstore but this has now been scaled down to incorporate other elements and it will now occupy two-thirds of the site.

A new £25m modernised bus depot, maintenance centre and administrative HQ is being created by First on Cathcart Road. Plans for the new depot, and the future of around 600 First Group jobs, were dependant on the sale of the Govanhill site.

Brian Clarke, managing director of Park Lane Land Ltd, said: "We do feel that it is a very good development for the area.

"We have taken account of feedback from the public and we are reducing the size of the store which leaves an area of the site free.

"We are keeping an open mind about what it could be used for but have already been approached by a cinema group."

A spokesman for First said it will deliver improved public transport services for the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games.

A spokesman for Glasgow City Council said: "A proposal of application notice has been posted for a proposed development at the bus garage site in Butterbiggins Road.

"The proposal is for a superstore, petrol filling station, car-wash, offices, care home, community facilities, cinema and access."

Last year, efforts to improve Govanhill included the setting up of an enforcement squad to root out slum landlords in the area, backed by £300,000 government funding.

The team will be made up of council staff, police and fire officers with the funding to last for two years.

A public exhibition on the new development will be at the Govanhill Neighbourhood Centre on Daisy Street on August 23 from 11am-7pm.

That's really gonna f*ck up the traffic

[Dexter St. Clair]

What's the intention for Larkfield depot once First quit it?

From the Council newsletter sorry Evening Times from last year

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/news ... t.14689666

A £20m retail and cinema development will create 400 new jobs in one of Scotland's most deprived areas while safeguarding hundreds of others.

That's really gonna f*ck up the traffic

Not as much as you fucking up the page with an unnecessary full quote of the post previous to yours. I assume your knowledge of short cuts in Glasgow is minimal.

[HollowHorn]

Hahahahaha! Guacho just broke the electrical interweb! WTF?

[Guacho]

Oops! Didn't realise some folk pay for their internet by the inch

[pingu]

Oops! Didn't realise some folk pay for their internet by the inch ::):

[RDR]

Thanks for the info YB.
You would hope the planners at GCC have taken into account the Ambulance Station at the Victoria Road end of Butterbiggins Road and its need for fast exit from it.

Interesting that a petrol station is planned. There was of course already one there at the corner of Butterbiggins Road and Victoria road. it didn't flourish and was subsequently shut down and demolished. I wonder what the economic case is for another one, when one has already failed in that area.

Another issue is the decontamination of the Larkfield site. There has been an issue in Motherwell, when First sold the old Traction House site, that they didn't decontaminate the site before leaving and the new developers will have to do that. Given First got the old Central SMT site for peanuts following deregulation (and I would presume Larkfield won't have cost much in the scheme of things either) them maybe the onus should be on them to do it. At present it would seem the Motherwell site will take two years to decontaminate (that development was also held up by planning issues) I would imagine Larkfield will not be much different.

[The Egg Man]

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Interesting that a petrol station is planned. There was of course already one there at the corner of Butterbiggins Road and Victoria road. it didn't flourish and was subsequently shut down and demolished. I wonder what the economic case is for another one, when one has already failed in that area.

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Will there be a supermarket attached to the petrol station?

I know you can't simply swap demand in one location to another but the filling station on Woodlands Rd always seems full to beyond capacity with cars queueing out onto the main road and much of that is put down to supermarket, not fuel, customers.

[RDR]

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Interesting that a petrol station is planned. There was of course already one there at the corner of Butterbiggins Road and Victoria road. it didn't flourish and was subsequently shut down and demolished. I wonder what the economic case is for another one, when one has already failed in that area.

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Will there be a supermarket attached to the petrol station?

I know you can't simply swap demand in one location to another but the filling station on Woodlands Rd always seems full to beyond capacity with cars queueing out onto the main road and much of that is put down to supermarket, not fuel, customers.

I'm presuming so. The ASDA at Toryglen (not so far away) has one and you would imagine if folk are in for groceries then they just get their petrol as well.
Good point re Woodlands Road, Sainsburys, though funnily enough anytime I have been in there its for lunch not petrol.