Lockerbie Remembered

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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby John » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:28 am

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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby jodieohdoh » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:36 am

John wrote:Welcome back from lurkerdom. You have been much missed.


Cheers! Thanks a lot x
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby Lone Groover » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:14 am

jodieohdoh - You mention ed that palliative care could not be provided in Prison.

Disagree there.

I would agree it is not an ideal place, but end stage cancer palliative care requires nursing care, clean sheets a kings fund bed, medical review, medication, pain control; how can that not be done in a Prison hospital ?

But I don't think access to care was the big issue in the decision process.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby tedmaul » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:20 am

Did Myra Hindley not die in prison of cancer?

Oh, the humanity.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby ibtg » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:43 am

Different country, different justice system.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby jodieohdoh » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:28 pm

Lone Groover wrote:jodieohdoh - You mention ed that palliative care could not be provided in Prison.


Nar I said proper palliative care can't be provided in prison. The only place for proper palliative care is either in your own home with a loving carer supported by nurses & professional carers (never happens, not where I'm from anyway- they leave the poor buggers to cope on their own because they'd rather not provide carers since "that" Panorama programme. The only way my father-in-law managed to get carers for his wife was by threatening to go to the Record)- or in a hospice. Forget hospital, never mind a prison hospital- it's no place for the terminally ill.

I know he's a convicted criminal & he was proved to have killed 270 odd people. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be treated in a humane manner. It is my view that to do otherwise makes us worse than him and others like him.

I don't think access to care was the crux of the matter either however I do think that in a civilised society it is one of the things which should be carefully considered.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby hazy » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:30 pm

Feck gaun yursell jodieohdoh I will be up later with a sponge and bucket of water. :wink:
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby tedmaul » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:06 pm



:(

At least some Scottish Nationalists got to boast about their wonderful compassion. That's the main thing.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby nuttytigger » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:26 pm

i will probably get shot down here but, why should he get to live his last few days with his family and in comfort but his victims couldnt?

i think if you are convicted of murder and get life, you should be in for life.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby boukra » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:32 pm

It will never be admitted to, but one consequence of the release is that Scotland may be off the terrorist radar for a few years. The alternative would have been martyrdom in Greenock, with all sorts of claims of maltreatment. If you thought the reception at Tripoli for a live terrorist was bad, just imagine the reception for a coffin.

The Lockerbie event was state sponsored, and our government representatives have been shaking the hands of these sponsors for some time. Why? Because that is the only route to possible resolution. Remember Northern Ireland.
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby Lucky Poet » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:17 pm

tedmaul wrote:

:(

At least some Scottish Nationalists got to boast about their wonderful compassion. That's the main thing.

Won't somebody please think of the children!
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby lordsleek » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:38 am

The measure of how civilised a country is , is by how it treats its enemies or prisoners.

just look at the US about as civilised as the Ba'ath regime in Iraq
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby Dexter St. Clair » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:40 pm

I caught some of this on BBC Radio 4 and was mightily impressed. The cross examination by Willie Taylor was spot on.

With the Lockerbie bombing once again in the news, another chance to hear Peter Goodchild's dramatised reconstruction of the extraordinary story of one of the longest, costliest and most complicated trials in legal history.

Few would have predicted the verdict in February 2001, when Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi was convicted and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah acquitted of blowing up Pam Am flight 103. The prosecution are sure they have got their men, but a succession of witnesses who prove to be CIA double agents, convicted terrorists and arms dealers with shady histories begin to undermine a case which is skilfully and passionately contested by the defence.

Presented by Sheena MacDonald.

Lockerbie on Trial
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby BrigitDoon » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:33 pm

London Review of Books

The Framing of al-Megrahi

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n18/gareth-pei ... al-megrahi
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Re: Lockerbie Remembered

Postby The Egg Man » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:59 pm

The 'new' government of Libya has condemned the decision to release Megrahi.

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/ne ... 6818295.jp

Could he be on his way to an English jail or even Guantanamo Bay sometime soon?
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