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Re: Writers

Postby scaryman2u » Fri May 21, 2010 8:39 pm

Wel done Banjo, very enjoyable and straight from the heart, lovely. 10/10 for having the balls to post them mate. :D Wish I could post mine, but i`m shy :oops: ::):
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Re: Writers

Postby BrigitDoon » Fri May 21, 2010 9:02 pm

Very enjoyable, banjo. I'm lost when it comes to doing stuff like that.
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Re: Writers

Postby Bridie » Sat May 22, 2010 11:00 pm

I think the problem with writing or any other creative output is that it's so personal (obviously) that we are too shy/scared of any comments.
I don't know why that is really?
Why should we be more scared of negative feedback about a song or a book that we've written than say a comment or opinion we made in a random conversation?

I wrote a short story (very) and I was advised to make it into a book. I was told to tackle writing like any other job, find a time that you were most productive, early morning for me :| and sit at the same designated place and just write anything for about 20 mins. That kills it for me it - turns into schoolwork.
Anyone done a creative writing course?
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Re: Writers

Postby BrigitDoon » Sun May 23, 2010 5:54 am

Bridie wrote:Why should we be more scared of negative feedback about a song or a book that we've written than say a comment or opinion we made in a random conversation?

I don't know. I suppose it's an attack on something very personal. The best challenge to such feedback is "let's see you do something better." Generally, they can't.
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Re: Writers

Postby 8cats » Sun May 23, 2010 8:37 pm

I agree that written work seems like something very personal. I always feel like I'm not quite sure if something is finished or if I should keep trying to make it better, so to hand it over to someone else feels like I'm saying it's finished and ready.

I've started a few creative writing classes but didn't finish them :oops: . I recently did an NEC course, Writing for Money, which was different because it assumed you could already write and focused on finding markets for your writing.

I found online writing challenges to be a good way to beat the procrastination thing and just write......I completed two lots of JulNoWriMo, which is a challenge to write a 50,000 word story in July.....there's also NaNoWriMo, which is the November equivalent and is a lot more popular. Has anyone else done any of these?
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Re: Writers

Postby Bridie » Wed May 26, 2010 7:17 am

No I haven't tried that 8cats but I think I might. Funny a couple of days ago I couldn't sleep for the heat so I got up at 3am and had a story in my head and was organised enough to have paper and pen and I wrote for about an hour _ I find that I can write better first thing in the morning - some mornings :D
My block is that I have the story and lots of ideas - I have no problem with ideas - I usually visualise the beginning and the end but I find that I don't pad out the details enough for the middle bit so I finish the story probably way too quick but then maybe thats my natural style or I'm lazy :wink: I like the ending to be fairly dramatic and with a twist.
I understand starting a creative writing course and not finishing it I think I would do the same - I haven't tested myself by setting tasks I just write when a particular story stays in my head and it's a full moon - seriously ::):

A friend of mine makes good money writing short stories for local Irish papers and periodicals but most of them are cosy round the fire O'Irish stories of days gone by. She says it's easy money ::):
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Re: Writers

Postby hungryjoe » Wed May 26, 2010 7:41 am

Nice poetry Banjo.
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Re: Writers

Postby minxy » Wed May 26, 2010 1:33 pm

Great stuff Banjo, I enjoy poems that are more real, gritty, true to life.
I haven't read much since college, but I enjoy Max Ehrman, I've got a wee book of his poems that I get out and read now and then.
I wrote a couple myself but as Scaryman says, am too shy .
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Re: Writers

Postby banjo » Wed May 26, 2010 2:44 pm

dont be shy folks.your among friends here and its not as if you have to stand up in front of everyone and read them out.if you have ever written anything then you probably had a reason for doing so.i would love to post more of my stuff and would be quite glad to even though some of it is quite parochial and about the area where i live so you may not always get what im on about,actually its mostly rubbish when i think about it but its my rubbish.i will have to pinch them back from another site because i posted them there and its the only record i have of them as i usually scribble them down on a bookie slip then throw them away.thanks for your comments though i appreciate them,banjo.
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Re: Writers

Postby banjo » Wed May 26, 2010 6:59 pm

justice for joe doherty.

joe doherty i knew him well,he was a fine young lad
folk said a lot about him ,but no one mentioned bad,
he was one of thatchers children,with a tough old time ahead,
but who could have predicted that he would end up dead

he would strum along to slade songs on his shiny new guitar,
but joe was stopped in his tracks by...well they know who they are,
it need never have happened,joe should be here today
but the suits that should be in the dock they dont admit foul play

for his family didnt get to see him grow into a man,
through lies damned lies and cover ups to protect a pension plan
they think they are the clever ones with letters after their name,
but i see those letters as an anagram and the word i read is shame

but when their judgement day does come and they are dealt their final blow,
i hope the foreman of the jury is that brave young man called joe


the wasters

another umpteen million for clydebank rebuilt schemes
so much champagne and canapes theyll be bursting at the seams
so much spent in such bad taste
the bankie folk say what a waste
we can see its cut and paste
your ruining our dreams.

theres no long term investment
theres no long term plan
for they never took the time to talk
to a bankie man to man

you may call upon your architects
to use up all your purse
this european funding has fast became a curse

my eyesight may be failing
i cant fight father time
but you aint gonna fix it
with a ten foot wide street sign

for i know where i come from
and i know where im bound
kilbowie road and miller street
and the places all around

theyve been here since before my time
theyll be here when im gone
so if it aint broke dont fix it
please leave it well alone.


wee luigi

the cafe culture long time gone,no coke served in the bottle
no jukebox in the corner now,belting out full throttle
a tanner one shot a bob for three,the islay brothers sing for me
luigi serving personally,for me it couldnt be better

a makechnies roll a big square slice a tunnocks from the shelf,
a knickerbocker glory,not an afterthought for health,
an ice cream sundae,snowball or big banana split
with loads of raspberry topping,oh the very thought of it.

plenty salt and vinegar to splash upon your chips,
and not from plastic sachets in little tear off strips,
every kind of sweetie served from those big glass jars,
soor plooms,sherbet dabs and loads of chocolate bars.

now once again big business he put his big foot down,
he bullied wee luigi and kicked him out of town,
now every chip gets counted and every burger weighed,
exceed just thirteen minutes and your welcomes overstayed.


the last tram.

wee tam went down tae clydebank town tae see the last tram car,
from now on trains and buses would take ye near and far.
he seen a fellow on his knees put coins upon the track,
and tam being quite inquisitive questioned the fellows tack.

quite simple,an investment,as he put the last coin down,
in a year tae come each penny will be worth a half a crown.
tam reached into his pocket his penny to invest,
and sure enough the tram rolled forth and his penny had been pressed.

now tam felt a wee movement in his tummy so to speak,
and made off for the nearest loo along at canal street.
he reached into his pocket but coins he hadnt any,
apart from one worth half a crown his special tram car penny.

he raced accross to cart street to see the gateman there,
but silly tam he had forgot it was the clydebank fair.
connellys pub glasgow road why didnt i think off it,
but the barman pulled the shutters doon and tam he had a fit.

then a shining light came over him like a beacon from afar,
he turned his heels fled to the east fast as a motor car.
six closed pubs he had to pass and did without a pause,
he reached the lovat just in time thanks to glasgows licensing laws.
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Re: Writers

Postby Bridie » Wed May 26, 2010 7:34 pm

Brilliant Banjo brilliant :D
Love the visual as well of you scribblin these in the bookies :wink:

Do you get the image in your head of a scene to write about or is the whole story there first and the words flow?
How long before you are satisfied with the result?
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Re: Writers

Postby 8cats » Wed May 26, 2010 7:54 pm

These are great :D

Wee Luigi reminds me of places I grew up with in Ayr.
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Re: Writers

Postby BrigitDoon » Wed May 26, 2010 8:13 pm

I really enjoyed those, especially conjuring visions of wee tam running hither and thither. :)
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Re: Writers

Postby hungryjoe » Thu May 27, 2010 10:32 am

Good stuff again Banjo.
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Re: Writers

Postby banjo » Thu May 27, 2010 7:59 pm

cheers folks,bridie i just scribble my thoughts down,nothing is ever rehearsed and and i dont go over them and edit or alter them.what i write is how i feel about something at any given time.i could maybe write three a week then nothing for months.
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