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samscafeamericain wrote:onyirtodd wrote:samscafeamericain wrote:
okay I will just whisper this.
3 pints is not binge drinking, a litre bottle of wine shared between two adults is not binge drinking. Don't you see that is the problem? We use a basis for eductation that is ridiculed.
The problem with the pejorative term 'binge drinking' is that, standing alone, it has little or no relevance.
3 pints on a Friday or a Saturday night (or even both) isn't binge drinking. 3 pints every night of the week still wouldn't meet the common definition of 'binge' drinking but the health damage would still be being done. 3 pints of IPA at 3.8% is completely different from 3 pints of Chip Blooterberg at well over 5% (5.3%?).
Alcohol advisors recommend no more than 21 units/ week (for men) ideally spread out over no more than 5 days and that the 2 'clear' days ought not be consecutive.
Onyir, the problem is there is no medical basis for the 21 units, none at all. It was a number dreamed up by a policy advisor, not by health professionals.
Mori wrote: ..........
JUSTICE SECRETARY Kenny MacAskill wants to raise the minimum age for buying drink in off-sales and supermarkets from 18 to 21. But teenagers younger than 18 seem to have no difficulty getting hold of alcohol, and, as this case study illustrates, they often put themselves at risk.
Our booze blues: Why do we drink ... and can the government stop us?
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onyirtodd wrote:Mori wrote: ..........
JUSTICE SECRETARY Kenny MacAskill wants to raise the minimum age for buying drink in off-sales and supermarkets from 18 to 21. But teenagers younger than 18 seem to have no difficulty getting hold of alcohol, and, as this case study illustrates, they often put themselves at risk.
Our booze blues: Why do we drink ... and can the government stop us?
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ASDA to the rescue
Supermarkets' border raid on SNP booze ban
Up to one-quarter of liquor licence holders in some cities may be throwing in the towel rather than entering Scotland's incoming licensing system, new figures show.
According to research collated from licensing boards in 29 of Scotland's 32 local authorities, some 585 licensed premises out of a total of 3522 which should have lodged applications by the March deadline did not.
Their study found that of those questioned last year, eight out of 10 of those who used weapons had been under the influence of alcohol at the time. One-quarter of them were on Diazepam. Heroin barely gets a look in
onyirtodd wrote:Roxburgh wrote:lynnski wrote:For fuck's sake, I do not have a control problem, no matter how you try and word it. You are the one projecting an opinion of me without ever having met me. I am perfectly entitled to my opinion on any matter, and if it differs from yours, than that's when debate and discussion start, not name calling and abuse. Try and think about binge drinking for what it is, which is after all what this topic is about. Nobody's saying people shouldn't be free to go to the pub or buy themselves a bottle of wine or whatever, we're saying binge drinking is a serious problem in Scotland and peoples' attitudes to drinking in general need to change. If the price of booze is put up a bit, then perhaps it might make people say to themselves, 'can I really afford that bottle of wine tonight?' instead of just buying booze whenever they feel like it, to hell with the effect it'll have on their health.
Exactly the point I am trying to make. Your argument is a "blunt instrument" which fails to go to the root of the problem and which targets all drinkers ... reasonable or binge ... alike.
Relax Roxburgh. It's SNP policy and so, by definition, it isn't going to happen
Its_a_gamp wrote:The problem isn't any worse than it's been for years, the figures are only up because they have started to do something about the drink problem in schools!
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