VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Josef » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:10 pm

Leslie Road is certainly big villa territory. If no-one has a photo by then, I'll get one tomorrow.
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Its_a_gamp » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:12 pm

Found your house! Leslie Road (sorry I was looking at leslie st on google maps)

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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Josef » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:18 pm

Well done, that man.
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Its_a_gamp » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:32 pm

Found something interesting while I was searching -

Robert K McMillan was originally called David but his name was changed to Robert 3 weeks after he was born, he also became a Law agent in 1911
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby duck » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:45 am

On the basis that Robert K was in sixth form ( do we call it form in Scotland? ) in 1899, doing a search for Robert K McMillan on the 1901 census for boys between 15 and 25 turns up only one in the whole of Scotland!
On the 1891 census , our Robert was at Leslie Road as in 1901. In the house the night of the census were Robert, his father aged 44, Minister, born Ayr; Robert K, born Renfrew Strathbungo ; scholar, Margaret Alslon (?) wife's 80 year old aunt, private means, born Hamilton, and Isa Campbell, 45 year old Gaelic and English speaking cook from Oban.

In 1901, the mother Mary, aged 49 born in Wishaw was present as was another son James W, 19, coalmaster's clerk born Lanarkshire Strathbungo; Robert K now stated as having been born Lanarkshire Strathbungo, not Renfrew, and now elevated to Arts Student ; daughter May H, 6, scholar, born Pollokshields and a new cook, 21, another Gaelic and English speaker , this time from Harris, Western Hebrides (sic)


Looking to understand why 1n 1891 Robert was born in Renfrew and yet in Lanarkshire in 1901 I found this on Wikipedia:
Strathbungo lay just inside Govan parish, on its boundary with Cathcart parish, and at one time the line of Allison Street and Nithsdale Street formed the boundary or 'march' between the counties of Lanark and Renfrew.
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby duck » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:30 pm

May I be so bold as to suggest to the Mods that this thread might merit a slot in a better place?
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Its_a_gamp » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:35 pm

For the Hydro -

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Moffat Hydro, what does anyone else think? The other hydros I can find pic of are all very square (IYKWIM)

Edit: now that I see them together I would say its definitely the same if this photo is reversed like George square is!
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby viceroy » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:02 pm

Definitely Moffat Hydro. For another picture see here. It burnt down in 1921 apparently.
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Dave » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:13 pm

Well Done :D

Certainly the flora and style from the interior shot found here are much akin to the first image
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby HollowHorn » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:22 pm

duck wrote:May I be so bold as to suggest to the Mods that this thread might merit a slot in a better place?

Agreed.
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Botanic Squirrel » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:47 am

I can only say 'Wow' and 'Thank you!'

I'm staggered at how much info you all found and how quickly! I'm especially pleased to see Moffat Hydro, that's the one that was really baffling me, I was starting to think it might be outside Scotland altogether!

Must get myself off to Leslie Road asap. I just checked it out and I did manage to get a StreetView look. :)

Thank you all again for your amazingness. :)
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Botanic Squirrel » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:45 am

I've been doing a little more searching and find that Strathbungo Parish Church has been turned into flats, though the facade remains.

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Does anyone know how I'd go about finding parish records for the church, so I can find out exactly when and how long Robert senior was Minister there? Would the Mitchell have the records or would they go to some churchy archive?

I'm also contacting local papers in and around Moffat to see if I can find out any more about the fire that destroyed the Hydro back in 1921. I picture a crazy woman in a long white dress running down a corridor, cackling madly and brandishing a flaming torch...
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby viceroy » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:19 pm

According to the Scottish Archive Network the surviving Strathbungo Kirk Session records from 1838 to 1879 are held in the Glasgow City Archives, i.e. at the Mitchell Library on the second floor.

The repository code is 243 and the reference is : GB243/CH2/1053.

If you take this info to the Mitchell and speak to the duty archivist at the Glasgow Archives I am sure he/she will be able to help you. You need to sign in if you want to examine the material and you are only allowed to use a pencil when taking notes.

This is a description of what they are supposed to have:

Minutes, 1879-1979; Managers? and congregational board minutes, 1864-1979 (incomplete); Building sub-committee minutes, 1883-1891; Literary Society minutes, 1884-1888, 1910-1912; Baptisms, 1855-1933; Communion roll, 1848-1874; Miscellanea, 1894-1920; Jubilee renovation fund records, 1937-1939; Certificates of transference, 1957-1979; Congregational reports and year books, 1956-1967; Miscellaneous papers, 20th cent.; Legal papers, 1894-1938; Renovation Fund cash books, 1965-1968; Cash books, 1887-1947; Seat letting records, 1933-1963; Accounts and list of subscribers, 1925-1947; Musical Society treasurer?s book, 1901-1908; Communion rolls, 1876-1947; Penny savings bank records, 1910-1928; Miscellanea, including a copy extract constitution of the church, 1838, 19th-20th cent.

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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Ronnie » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:23 am

The Scotsman will have covered the fire. The newspaper's online archive (which is not free) is here: http://archive.scotsman.com/ The local papers will be in the National Library of Scotland, Dumfries Library and possibly the Moffat Library.
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Re: VICTORIAN/EDWARDIAN DISCOVERY

Postby Princess Zelda » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:38 pm

There are pictures of Moffat Hydro on http://www.dalbeattie.com/moffat
http://www.visitmoffat.co.uk
It looks as though the pictures in front of the folding screen could have been taken in the Hydro drawing room. Or maybe both interiors were just similarly trendy. :)
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