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War Baby wrote:Icecube,
Is the photo taken at the scene of one of Manuel's murders, with a group of police there? If it is that one, then I will buy it right away!
scotsjohn45 wrote: "...the nightmare might never have happened but for the stupidity and vanity of one woman, my mother."
"... Manuel was placed in an identity parade, complete with gashed head and my mother failed to identify him. My father later told me that she was too busy acting the victim and spent her time crying and howling like a wounded animal.
Years later, when Manuel's reign of terror was over, she saw no fault in her behaviour and actually blamed the police for not pointing Manuel out to her. Vanity has it's price."
ninatoo wrote:scotsjohn45 wrote: "...the nightmare might never have happened but for the stupidity and vanity of one woman, my mother."
"... Manuel was placed in an identity parade, complete with gashed head and my mother failed to identify him. My father later told me that she was too busy acting the victim and spent her time crying and howling like a wounded animal.
Years later, when Manuel's reign of terror was over, she saw no fault in her behaviour and actually blamed the police for not pointing Manuel out to her. Vanity has it's price."
The total lack of sympathy you and your father had/have for your mother, having been attacked by this animal, astounds me. How about giving her the benefit of the doubt for maybe having PSTD instead of writing it off as 'vanity'? The woman was very likely in shock at the time, traumatised and likely to have been injured herself, so it's probably no wonder she could not identify him. No I do not know your mother, but I do know these events can and very often DO have life-long effects on people. If my son spoke about me following such an attack the way you speak of your mother, I would hang my head in shame.
scotsjohn45 wrote:I can well understand your consternation and indeed disgust at what I have posted, but what was posted comes after many years of consideration of my mother's life. The people who loved her who she despised and didn't hesitate to betray, those whose lives she tried to ruin essentially for entertainment purposes, her un-diluted bigotry, the decent neighbours whose names she blackened. Her totally selfish lifestyle. If anyone said or did anything which might give her the slightest offence, she would scream and cry like a wounded animal. She was totally manipulative of those closest to her. Nowadays she would automatically be diagnosed as having Asperger's syndrome. She would have clawed you eyes out if you said so.
My father who was the most loving of men,had his life ruined by her, but stood by her till his own death. But essentially her character showed in her blaming the police for not pointing out her attacker to her. No blame could possibly be attached to her.
Cut it any way you want, her failure to have Peter Manuel taken to court on an attempted murder charge ultimately cost lives.
It is also worth noting that at the time of Manuel's attack on my mother, three girls in their advanced teenage years saw the attack and ran away. Their witnessing the attack and I believe a subsequent denial(this I got much later in life)didn't help either.
Don't be too quick to be a bleeding heart and try PTSD while you are at it. This post was meant to be informative, not to start a coconut shy!
ninatoo wrote:No I do not know your mother,
purplepantman wrote:How dare scotsjohn45 come on here and make comments about HIS memories of the Peter Manuel case.
I mean who does he think he is? Anyone else who posts candid comments about their personal memories of
the Peter Manuel case on the thread called “The Peter Manuel case” should be banned.
No more personal opinions should be allowed and no saying anything bad about your mum
(or anyone's mum for that matter). It’s just not on.ninatoo wrote:No I do not know your mother,
Yes, that's about the only sensible thing you've said.
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