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moonbeam wrote:Spent time at Cultybraggen Camp in the early 1950s. There were still notices in German in some of the huts. Go and see it. It looks like a WW2 "movie" set of an army/prison camp. There were "wee" gardens at the front and rear of some of the huts-overgrown-but the Germans must have tended them.The "open" toilets were amazing!!
Why cant they market this place for any WW2 movies that might be made.

I was there in 04 providing services to a youth camp on the site - it was half preserved huts and half derelict ans stripped of anything of value. M<ost huts were just 4 walls and a couple of power points - not all of them worked.

Sold for housing now, and a data centre in the underground bunker, according to friends who live in the area.

Chr1ss wrote:Meant to say it would be good to hear from anyone who can remember me. E mail on request, Chris.

Consider yourself remembered, PM sent.

Some info on the prisoner of war camp at Johnstone Castle:
http://www.johnstonecastle.org/document ... ochure.pdf

HollowHorn wrote:Some info on the prisoner of war camp at Johnstone Castle:
http://www.johnstonecastle.org/document ... ochure.pdf

Thanks for that HH - most interesting , and I have a job out in Johnstone tomorrow morning



We had a visit on Doors Open Day this year in Dumfries and Galloway to the Ukranian chapel within what remains of the Hallmuir prisoner of war camp near Lockerbie.

From the Dumfries and Galloway site:

"This very rare chapel (probably the only one in Scotland) was built by Ukrainian Prisoners of War at Hallmuir Camp, who in 1947 were sent from Italy to Scotland rather than being handed over to the Russians and a potentially terrifying future.  The basic building is a simple army hut clad with painted corrugated asbestos cement sheet. 

The chapel still presents an authentic Ukrainian interior, complete with tinsel chandelier, and is still in use by the Ukrainian community, who, since they were not able to return home after the war, stayed in Lockerbie and Lochmaben, found work in the area, married local girls and brought up their children to respect their traditions.

The building is Category B listed, and its unique value to Scottish and world history is increasingly recognised. "

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One of the people looking after the place is the son of a former inmate. Very interesting chap.
Pay a visit while the place is still there - the Ukranian Embassy wanted to buy the hut and relocate it

From Canmore:
"Single storey prefabricated hut with pitched roof converted by Ukrainian Prisoner's of War during 1942. Painted corrugated iron walls with an asbestos roof and timber frame set on a concrete base.
Interior painted and wallpapered with iconography at one end and wooden pews. "

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Castlerankine just west of Denny was a large POW camp IIRC - nothing much left now though but loads of references on internet. Listed here http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/PoWCampSummaryWWII along with all the rest in Scotland.

camp 19 Douglas Water

Hand carved from memory, the Russians had destroyed the original church



Would, like VT has, suggest a visit.

Passed Happendon on the M74 heading south. Can anyone tell me what the large buildings that have been flung up over the last two years. Can't find them on Google earth, Bing or anything. They look like warehouses.

Hi Dexter

They are maturation warehouses owned by John Dewar & Sons/Bacardi

colmar wrote:Hi Dexter

They are maturation warehouses owned by John Dewar & Sons/Bacardi

I just misread "maturation"

colmar wrote:Hi Dexter

They are maturation warehouses owned by John Dewar & Sons/Bacardi

Thank you, colmar.

I googled your info and came up with this.http://www.jamesbarr.co.uk/index.php?id=6&pid=171&view=17 and this http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20071107006578/en/Bacardi-Finalizes-Land-Purchase-Deal-Central-Scotland#.UsdmiWRdW88

The land, located in South Lanarkshire (25 miles outside of Glasgow) and adjacent to the M74, between Douglas and Lesmahagow, is to be acquired from Scottish Coal, part of Scottish Resources Group. This land is zoned as an industrial greenfield site where no urban development has previously taken place. The development was given approval by the South Lanarkshire Council’s Planning Committee on November 6.

Cultybraggan taken in Sept 2013.


Cultybraggan P.O.W. camp. by john.mcknight, on Flickr


Cultybraggan P.O.W. camp. by john.mcknight, on Flickr


Cultybraggan P.O.W. camp. by john.mcknight, on Flickr


Cultybraggan P.O.W. camp. by john.mcknight, on Flickr


Cultybraggan P.O.W. camp. by john.mcknight, on Flickr

Was at Cultybraggen in the 1950s and the huts had no electric heaters. A central coke stove bang in the middle just like
every POW movie!I seem to recall the NCO's had a "wee" partioned off bed in some huts. Still think it would make a great WW2 POW movie set.

moonbeam wrote:Was at Cultybraggen in the 1950s and the huts had no electric heaters. A central coke stove bang in the middle just like
every POW movie!I seem to recall the NCO's had a "wee" partioned off bed in some huts. Still think it would make a great WW2 POW movie set.

75 of us were there for 10 days with 15 Para in 78 or 79, the lot of us were find £5 at the end of that time as quite a few of the wooden chairs had been burned in the stoves the place was frozen

Hallmuir P.O.W. camp on B.B.C. Scotland news tonight.