Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby onyirtodd » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:26 pm

Jimmy Moon on http://www.scotlandontv.tv/ Search for Moon Guitars.
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Schiehallion » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:22 pm

onyirtodd wrote:Wow! Another mandocrucian on HG. Who'da thunk it?

Mine is an early 1920's Gibson A-.

Crappy photo.

Jimmy Moon did some great work on my previous mandolin, a Gibson Alrite from about 1916.


Nice one! How does it play and sound? My only other one was a cheapo £80 Epiphone before buying my pride and joy!
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby onyirtodd » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:38 pm

Schiehallion wrote:
onyirtodd wrote:Wow! Another mandocrucian on HG. Who'da thunk it?

Mine is an early 1920's Gibson A-.

Crappy photo.

Jimmy Moon did some great work on my previous mandolin, a Gibson Alrite from about 1916.


Nice one! How does it play and sound? My only other one was a cheapo £80 Epiphone before buying my pride and joy!


In truth........not that great on either count, but I'm not a great player.

The bass end sounds big and full but the treble end is a bit tinny and 'plinky-plonky'. It probably needs restrung.
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Blueboy » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:06 pm

Get a room you two.. :wink:
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Cyclo2000 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:50 am

No-one's mentioned the River Detectives yet. They had a minor hit with Chains in 1989. They were a kinda folk duo, from Motherwell or somesuch. I think our drummer had a passing aquaintance with Sam.

Bis? Twee. I bought "Sweet Shop Avengers" but nothing else. I think They're still going,or maybe they just reconvened cos they played in Glasgow this year. Originally on Chemikal Underground, BTW. Johnny Brady from the Johnny7 and the Rezillos was their guitar roady.

Strange too that there's nothing here about the Blue Nile, yet. An enigmatic band, to say the least. Songs like "The Downtown Lights" and "Headlights on the Parade" express a sorrow or melancholy which is abscent from nearly all other Glasgow originated music. Twenty years on we're still just 4 albums in, the last, High, came out in 2004. Paul Buchanan famously dated (married?) Rossana Arquette. He toured a set of Blue Nile Songs last year under the title "Paul Buchanan sings the songs of The Blue Nile". There's meant to be a new album due.

Anyone here remember anything about Set The Tone? They were a funk band, a bit like Rip Rig and Panik. I think the keyboard player was Kenny Myzak, who had played with the Minds but I've been wrong before. Bobby Patterson from Love and Money was the bassist. He ended up managing the Tunnell for Ronny McCulloch and a coupla years back he was in Bob Hodgkins new band the Poems. Unfortunately, Bobby Patterson died last year.
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Mark N » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:04 am

Cyclo2000 wrote:Anyone here remember anything about Set The Tone?


Possibly - did they have a single called Dance Sucker or something similar ?
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Set the Tone

Postby Cyclo2000 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:03 am

"Dance Sucker" sounds right but jesus it's a long time ago!
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Les Disques Du Crepuscule

Postby Cyclo2000 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:05 am

I wrote here earlier in the posts that Josef K’s single “Sorry for Laughing” didn’t actually come out on Postcard but was a co-operation with Les Disques Du Crepuscule.

For the obsessive then: Disques Du Crepuscule had an interesting association with UK Indy music in the late 70’s/early 80’s, particularly with Scotland and Manchester (in the shape of Postcard and Factory records). A Factory package tour hit Benelux around this time. My own band played at au Plan K in support of a Richard Jobson gig in 1981. Crepuscule started in 1980, when A Certain Ratio's Shack Up 7" was released, carrying a double label identity: Factory Benelux/Les Disques Du Crepuscule. The 7" was followed by the even rarer (I’ve got one!!!) and exquisitely beautiful The Durutti Column's Lips That Would Kiss Form Prayers to Broken Stone 12" in October.
The first true Crepuscule product, the cassette compilation From Brussels with Love was put together between July and October 1980, appearing in the UK in November. Its release marked the parting of Factory Benelux and Crepuscule, although both labels kept operating from the same offices! Even in early 80's independent music circles, From Brussels with Love, originally packed in a clear PVC pouch including a 16-page booklet, was something of a stranger. It was an unusual mixture of pieces from well known and less well known artists -Thomas Dolby, Richard Jobson, Michael Nyman, Vini Reilly, Brian Eno- all that despite just being an 'aural magazine'. Crepuscule's first proper record, in January 1981, was Mozart, a 7" (previously released as In Re Don Giovanni on Piano in 1980) containing three short pieces by the then unknown Michael Nyman, who'd already contributed to From Brussels With Love. Being an odd choice for a single, Mozart now is a sought after record.
As a company they released records by Manchester’s 23 Skidoo and Cabaret Voltaire and their publishing company put out Richard Jobson’s book of poems, “A Man for All Seasons”. They recorded a 12” for Bourgie Bourgie which never came out and the Jazzateers LP, released in the UK through a deal with Rough Trade.
Brussels being an international city, Crepuscule soon spread its tentacles abroad. In 1982 Operation Twilight (UK) and Crepuscule America were launched. Both were short lived and the US section (run by Factory US supremo Michael Schamberg) issued only one record: Paul Haig's Running Away 12", which is now rare and desirable. (I’ve got one folks!!!!)
The Pale Fountains “Thank you” was recorded for Crepuscule although it came out on Virgin. Same goes for their album.

In 1983 Crepuscule signed a UK/Benelux distribution deal with Island for Paul Haig. As a result of this deal Paul Haig's Rhythm of Life LP went into production in New York. Island and Crepuscule released 3 singles from the album: Heaven Sent, Never Give Up and Justice. They all failed to chart, maybe because the sound of Rhythm Of Life didn't appeal to the people who liked Josef K. The album itself sold rather well though in all European markets, so the US market seemed to be a logical next step but Island decided not to release the album over there. In 1990 Crepuscule proposed to release Rhythm of Life and the New York Remixes album together on one CD but apparently Haig vetoed the idea.
There were further Haig records on Crepuscule that I know about, The Only Truth and The Warp of Pure Fun EP. He left to sign for Circa but there is a “sort of available” compo of his DDC stuff called European Sun.
The Associates Allan Rankin also put out two solo albums on the label, The World Begins To Look Her Age and She Loves Me Not. Their was talk that Billy McKenzie would be collaborating with ZTT’s Trevor Horn for the label on a version of the Associates Reach The Top but it came to nothing.

My association with Crepuscule ended around this time although I know the label continued in one form or another till the mid 90’s cos around that time Paul Haig returned to Crepuscule with Coincidence Vs Fate, containing most of the tracks from his (probably rightly) unreleased 1991 Circa album Right On Line. The remaining tracks from the Circa album can be found on the Surrender CD-EP which I must say I’ve neither heard nor seen. A search online suggests the label folded in 1997.
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Josef » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:15 pm

Aargh. Set The Tone? A bit like Rip Rig and Panik? 8O I feel a lie down in a darkened room coming on. STT were the Glasgow equivalent of Sigue Sigue Sputnik - hyped to high heaven on programmes like The Tube, but deservedly sinking like a stone when the public got to vote with their wallets. Scarcely to be compared with the mighty Bristolian combo (to whom I still listen regularly).

Several of the Paul Haig records mentioned - and a good deal of Benelux/Factory stuff in general - is still available via the LTM reissue label, including the From Brussels with Love compilation and a Paul Haig rarities album featuring collaborations with Edinburgh's rather interesting Fini Tribe, and Cabaret Voltaire.

Paul Haig also released several cassette-only recordings on his own - yes- Rhythm Of Life label. I wouldn't recommend seeking them out.
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Dexter St. Clair » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:46 pm

I went to find Rap your Love / dance Sucker by Set the Tone but it's on a shelf somewhere but I found this on E bay

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Kenny Hyslop, Bobby Paterson and despite working beside the singer's sister I cannot recall her name. They need a good riff for a hit. Rip Rig and Panic found it for pigbag

and this on a shelf

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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Schiehallion » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:21 pm

Technically outside the city boundary but The Redhurst Hotel on Eastwoodmains Rd between Speirsbridge and Clarkston Toll has its own wee bit of rock 'n roll history.

It was here on the night of 9th February 1974, Thin Lizzy (at that time comprising Phil Lynott, Brian Downey and Gary Moore) stayed after playing a gig at Glasgow University.

A young (and probably drunk) Brian Robertson (who went to my school, Eastwood High) gatecrashed the hotel and started playing Lizzy songs to Brian Downey. A few months later he was invited to audition in London and joined the band later playing on The Boys Are Back In Town etc.
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Re: The Sound of Young Scotland

Postby TommyDGNR8 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:44 am

Cyclo2000 wrote: an LP, "This Heaters on Fire"


Ha! Ha! That's the best typo I've seen in ages - The Heather's On Fire

Four pages and no mention of the Apollo? I suppose it's been pretty comprehensively covered by Martin Kielty;
http://www.inthewilderness.com/apollo/

If you're interested in the 80s pub scene, there's loads of stuff here (check out the MySpace links for recordings);
http://www.glasband80.co.uk/

First visit in a while, BTW - love the new look.
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Pedantry Alert!!!

Postby Cyclo2000 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:23 am

Those not of a pedantic bent look away now...

Pappas Got a Brand New Pigbag was a hit for....Pigbag, not Rip Rig and Panic, who never had a "hit" as such. TBH I so struggled to remember anything they did I googled them. Sublimely, one of their B sides is entitled "Blip This Jig It's Shamanic" which is so good I'm gonna start saying it to people when I wanna show them something I think worthwhile.
Ol' Cyclo points at GKC buildings - "Blip This Jig maaan - It's Shamanic!"

For the record, "This Heaters On Fire" is Alan's idea of humour, not mine. Well done though.

Brian Appleyard chimes in his thru'pence

Although I never met anyone or had any connection to Rip Rig and Panic, I did play a series of gigs with a band from the borders who styled themselves the Scottish answer to R,R&P. They were called "Rip, Strip and F*ck It" and both played and turned up for their gigs stark naked. To see them get out the van and start setting up (on the odd occasion where the promoters didn't chuck them oot) was an initiation in itself. Rubbish band but great fun to tour with.
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Re: Pedantry Alert!!!

Postby Dexter St. Clair » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:21 pm

Cyclo2000 wrote:Those not of a pedantic bent look away now...

Pappas Got a Brand New Pigbag was a hit for....Pigbag, not Rip Rig and Panic, who never had a "hit" as such.



Fuck it I've gone senile. So much for my plan to appear on Mastermind specialist subject Bristol bands. I noticed the first sign when I bought this record Image twice. Once for 10p in the Barras then twice when I spent a £1 on it on ebay.
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Re: Glasgow’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Postby Cyclo2000 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:23 am

This had slipped my mind until a few moments ago.

Jack Bruce is from East Kilbride (or at least his maw used to live next door to Joe MacIvor, a retired policeman who used to have a four track in his spare room). She came in once when I was there, back in about 1980. She saw us with the guitars in Joes front room (that many wee bands used to get a tape done by Joe that sometimes you'd to wait yer turn) and asked us about wur band etc. Then she say's "Oh my son's a musician" "Oh really?, Who's he with" says us "Well, Cream, Blind Faith etc....."

Naebody's mentioned Brian Connolly of the Sweet, who was both
A Born in Blantyre
B Taggart's Brother as any fule no.
or Midge Ure who was born in Cambuslang and in
A Baseball shirted Tam Paton managed proto boy band Slik
B Pointy moustached high tech chart toppers Ultravox!

Have we had a mention of The Soup Dragons yet? Bellshill me thinks, one hit, a cover of the Stones I'm Free, a song about a haberdashery salesman. The Jesus and Mary Chain are from East Kilbride, one major hit, Just like Honey, a song about a honey substitute sandwich spread popular at the time.

I think it shamefull that to date we've heard nothing about octagenarian, bekilted ethinic song specialist singing duo Fran and Anna, who hail from Coatbridge or indeed octagenarian, bekilted ethinic song specialist singing duo The Alexander Brothers, who hail from Wishaw.
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