The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby neilmc » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:11 pm

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HollowHorn wrote:
Were these the last remnants of the Pollok St. gardens? Middle left. (or were they a tad further west)
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This is actually what was left of Weir Street, Hollowhorn; Pollok Street is the next street to the west as you suggested. I think this is simply some sort of central reservation separating the Weir St. remnants from that on-ramp, which itself has gone, replaced by the exit at Harry Ramsdens.


Here's how the area was portrayed in the Geographia street plan from around 1980. The on-ramp between Weir St. and Pollok St. can be clearly seen:-

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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby viceroy » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:22 pm

HollowHorn wrote:Brilliant photo, BH, I'm gobsmacked!
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Yes, nice one BH. If the postcard dates from 1907 then the Kingston Halls & Public Library would have been brand new as it was finished in 1905.
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby crusty_bint » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:08 pm

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HollowHorn wrote:I had already rejected this photo from the VM as a mistaken location, but whilst looking through Andrew J. McMahon’s book, ’A History of Kinning Park & District’ I discovered that according to him, the middle section of Pollok St. did not have gardens / islands. He has it captioned as:
“Pollok St. looking North”
I struggle to see it and I can’t explain the bridge at the top of the street , most confusing.
Looking back at the aerial photograph above though, it clearly shows each of the three sections had their own gardens.
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Is McMahon's book in the Mitchell HH? Whether it is or isn't, I'd say it's a case of a mistake being compounded between VM and the book. I'd say there is no way that is Pollok St in the photo. I reckon someone has got confused by the similar types of tenement with the portico-style entrances. I'd assume these are Alexander Thomson's.

I cannot believe a residential street like Pollok St would've had traffic lights in those days. The volume of traffic wouldn't have justified it. It looks more like a stretch of Argyle St or somewhere like that.


The photo really puts me in mind of Abbotsford Place in the Gorbals, possibly at the junction with Bedford St ...looking south?
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby HollowHorn » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:47 pm

Hmmmm...The porticos would seem to fit.
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby neilmc » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:42 pm

I think the tenement block with the stonework painted on its lower two storeys is the clincher.
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby HollowHorn » Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:09 pm

I thought so too, Neil, but wondered if the 'paint' was actually sunshine?
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby Schiehallion » Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:27 pm

I'd say it's definitely Abbotsford Place and I've just noticed VM has it under 'Abbotsford Place' as well as 'Pollok St'!
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby Fossil » Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:44 pm

The VM know about mistakes - since last year :roll:
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby Socceroo » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:37 pm

I reckon it is Cathcart Road.
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby HollowHorn » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:45 pm

Moderators, please remove this pish post :D
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby Socceroo » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:52 pm

HollowHorn wrote:Moderators, please remove this pish post :D


Pished post get it right... :D
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby Targer » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:44 pm

Regardless of which streets they are....they are excellent photographs of old Glasgow (1950's?). I thought one looked like Abbotsford Place off Bedford St. where My doctor used to be.
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby oceanrider » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:56 pm

You've got a fine forum here and somehow I stumbled upon it. Glad I did. I remember Pollok Street well, even the gardens in the median. I lived there for a few months in the winter of 1971 or 1972. It was pretty grim. The tenements were neglected, the gardens threadbare. I was 20 years old, poor, couldn't find a job for some reason and I remember walking into the town center because I did not want to spend money on a bus. Eventually I went back to London and when I came to Glasgow several years later, Pollok Street was gone and Glasgow no longer seemed so forbidding as it did the early seventies.
Thanks for the pictures.
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby HollowHorn » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:49 pm

Thanks for the input. :wink:
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Re: The Lost Gardens of Pollok St.

Postby ARLY973 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:22 pm

Hi,
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you,
I have been looking for references to Ardgowan street, and have finally found your website, fantastic is all I can say, ELLEN & WILLIAM JOHNSTONE my great grandmother & father lived 87 Ardgowan street, when they got married in 1907,they had 4 possibly 5 children, William was killed in a motorbike accident, the remaining went to canada around 1927 I think, if anyone out there has any information or family ties to

ELLEN & WILLIAM JOHNSTONE OR
Annie, Mary Jane, William & Robert Johnstone possibly Nellie(deceased)
ROBERT & MARYJANE MORGAN (MAIDEN NAME BRADFORD), OR
ANNIE & WILLIAM JOHNSTONE (MAIDEN NAME TURKINGTON) OR
ELLEN & SAMUEL MCCRUM

Does anyone know the history of 21 Abbotsford Place, they were listed as being married there, was this like a registry office or something?

I would be so grateful if you got in touch as have hit a brick wall so to speak.

Well done HH on your brilliant research and fab pictures

regards arly
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