Hidden Cumbernauld.

[Icecube]

I suspect there is a more than a bit of 'slash' taking by the above new members PPM.

[jinty]

Please can somebody help me before im declared officially insane! Apparently there is an actual Castle Cary which the small place of Castlecary is named after, cant find any information on it at all, and whenever i mention it, no one seems to have heard of it??

[Icecube]

It sure does Jinty, its a private dwelling restored by a previous owner, one (the late) Hugo B. Miller who was also a local historian of note.

http://www.falkirklocalhistorysociety.co.uk/home/index.php?id=68

The house is situated off the Walton Road just at the railway bridge.

[mjw]

There's a bit of subsidence affecting the stream that feeds the Glencryan reservoir, it's about 200 yards upstream and the water disappears into the hole and presumably the old mine workings.

[Icecube]

Good yin! I think a bit of ground near there has been fenced off for a while? Though the burn was flowing normally. This means the wee reservoir isn't getting fed by the burn? and this also means the Glencryan doesn't supply the Red Burn then?
Interesting, a wee wander on the cards. PPM? ye there?

[purplepantman]

Good yin! I think a bit of ground near there has been fenced off for a while? Though the burn was flowing normally. This means the wee reservoir isn't getting fed by the burn? and this also means the Glencryan doesn't supply the Red Burn then?
Interesting, a wee wander on the cards. PPM? ye there?

I'll dig out my trunks!

[mjw]

Couple of old images from the old A80/A73 junction at the Spur in the village, first from a postcard that was put up for sale on ebay and the other was printed in the Cumbie News a few months ago. Seems a terrible waste to put the dual carriageway on top of this junction within spitting distance of the Spur, the more I see of the old Cumbernauld the more I realise that the CDC screwed up quite a lot of things.

[Icecube]

The polis directing traffic up the Wilderness Brae [to left] with Glasgow Road [to right] behind him?

Yes MJW the CDC arhitects and town planners must have been tripping on something when they designed the new town. They nearly ruined an historic village with hundreds of years of history.
North Motherwellshire Council aint much better.

[mjw]

Learnt a couple of things this week I didn't know before about Cumbernauld, firstly that it was meant to be a lot bigger 8000 acres compared to the eventual just over half. The 8000 acres was to cover both Dunbartonshire and Lanarkshire county council land, but Lanarkshire tried to block any of their land being used and rather than fight it the government pressed ahead with it using only Dunbartonshire land, which was of poorer quality eg mines, peat bogs etc, also meaning the train station would be nowhere near the town centre. The other point was that they considered building the town in the valley around the train station, with the town centre in Carbrain, everybody knew about the limitations of the hilltop site and yet it still won out, incredible eh?

[Beavis64]

Has anyone ever been to the Lenziemill Archive Centre to look at old photos, plans, etc of Cumbernauld before it was developed?
I grew up in Greenfaulds in 1973 and would be interested to see how all the different areas of the town looked before the houses and roads were built.

[purplepantman]

Couple of old images from the old A80/A73 junction at the Spur in the village, first from a postcard that was put up for sale on ebay and the other was printed in the Cumbie News a few months ago. Seems a terrible waste to put the dual carriageway on top of this junction within spitting distance of the Spur, the more I see of the old Cumbernauld the more I realise that the CDC screwed up quite a lot of things.

Yes MJW the CDC arhitects and town planners must have been tripping on something when they designed the new town. They nearly ruined an historic village with hundreds of years of history.
North Motherwellshire Council aint much better.

A couple of Past/Present pictures would confirm all of the above. What a shame!

Has anyone ever been to the Lenziemill Archive Centre to look at old photos, plans, etc of Cumbernauld before it was developed?
I grew up in Greenfaulds in 1973 and would be interested to see how all the different areas of the town looked before the houses and roads were built.

Yes. They're a very nice and helpful bunch.
I have more than a little interest in how it all looked before the New Town was built and they have
quite a good collection of pictures of all the old farms n' stuff.

There are other limekiln's down Castlecary Glen.

Does anyone have any pictures of these? Are they worth a visit?
According to various maps, there does seem to be significant remains but I think they might be quite
tricky to reach(?). I'm not sure how much will be left after the A80 upgrading work.

[mjw]

Anyone know what this is? is it a lint pond? must've walked past this hundreds of times and never noticed it, it's near the mine entrance, the walls are made of bricks.

[Icecube]

Can you pinpoint it? I'll have a gander up there.

[mjw]

Icecube, It's about 30 yards in from the right side ofthe path just before the bridge over the stream from Glencryan reservoir as if you were walking from Abronhill/Cumbie High, ie fifty yards from the mine entrance. Just across from this is a flood coming out of subsided hillside, wonder if this is where the stream is diverted to after going underground? this was dry last sunday.Anyway back to the round structure, there seems to be a round drain in it leading to a pipe that empties into the stream.

[Icecube]

Brilliant MJ. That 'll be the Glencryan leaching out from its underground travels, well done! I'll up there shortly.