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Postby Alycidon » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:48 pm

If you go to the page below you will see an explanation of what the 4 digit numbers mean. For example in the second photo from the top, I can tell that in platform 1 there is a Virgin Voyager for Southampton or Bournemouth, leaving platform 2 is a GNER for London via Edinburgh, in platform 4 is a local to Edinburgh via Shotts, platform 5 is double banked with an East Kilbride and a Barrhead,.
See if you can work out the rest! What time is it, about 11am, but it is not the current timetable, as the 1E13 no longer works from Glasgow.

http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/page/Headcodes+Explained
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Postby HollowHorn » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:30 pm

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Postby Schiehallion » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:23 am

Here Alycidon, I've asked this question before on HG but I think it was before you joined.

Anyway, I'm trying to find any details of a train crash at Port Eglinton in 1934, possibly 1 killed. The outcome of the investigation was that the report didn't blame the signaller but they concluded the driver hadn't had a spad either. The only other thing I know was a train from Corkerhill was involved.

I can't find a trace of it anywhere yet my Dad remembers it as he was working in the next box at Pollok Junction. Ring any bells with you?
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Postby My Word » Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:32 am

That photo of the 'Cavalry' - really the Household Cavalry' in Central Station was from the rehersal the night before the Queen's Jubilee parade from Central Station to Glasgow Cathedral - and back.

The Household Cavalry - who were, as usual the Queens' escort that day wore the normal attire, gleamimg breast plates, helmets adorned with plumes and immaculate boots, normal parade attire. I don't have a picture but I saw it live on the BBC.

We all got a day off and watched it in the pub.
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Postby Alycidon » Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:37 pm

Schiehallion wrote:Here Alycidon, I've asked this question before on HG but I think it was before you joined.

Anyway, I'm trying to find any details of a train crash at Port Eglinton in 1934, possibly 1 killed. The outcome of the investigation was that the report didn't blame the signaller but they concluded the driver hadn't had a spad either. The only other thing I know was a train from Corkerhill was involved.

I can't find a trace of it anywhere yet my Dad remembers it as he was working in the next box at Pollok Junction. Ring any bells with you?


Hi Shiehallion, you are in luck. The accident is described in David L. Smith's book "Legends of the Glasgow and South Western Railway in LMS Days". Page 75/6. I have altered some sentences for clarity.

"On 6th September 1934...The 5.35pm ex St Enoch, a train of many stops was travelling by the Canal line, Beith, Dalry and Montgreenan to Kilmarnock. As usual , soon after leaving St Enoch, they were to be routed through Eglinton Signal Box to the up Canal Line. Coming along the down Canal Line was the 5:12 from Paisley West, with No 591 tender first and a Hurlford crew. The road was set for the 5:35pm and by signalman's evidence the Canal home was against the 5:12pm, but for some reason the Hurlford driver ran through it and the two trains met effectively head on on the crossing. The crew of the 5:35pm were killed the fireman of the 5:12 died later of his injuries. 5 passengers were killed and 34 injured.
The driver of the 5:12 from Paisley West, being the sole survivor of the footplate crews had to bear the brunt of the official enquiry and a trial for culpable homicide. He maintained that the signal was clear for him when he first sighted it; when he was within an engine length he looked up again and it was at danger. This implied that the signalman had "changed the road" after giving him the clear. At the enquiry, using a stopwatch, it was proved that this could not have been done in the time taken for the train to travel the distance. The enquiry therefore concluded that the driver was at fault, but at the trial for manslaughter he was acquitted.
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Postby Schiehallion » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:39 pm

Alycidon wrote:Hi Shiehallion, you are in luck. The accident is described in David L. Smith's book "Legends of the Glasgow and South Western Railway in LMS Days". Page 75/6. I have altered some sentences for clarity.

"On 6th September 1934...The 5.35pm ex St Enoch, a train of many stops was travelling by the Canal line, Beith, Dalry and Montgreenan to Kilmarnock. As usual , soon after leaving St Enoch, they were to be routed through Eglinton Signal Box to the up Canal Line. Coming along the down Canal Line was the 5:12 from Paisley West, with No 591 tender first and a Hurlford crew. The road was set for the 5:35pm and by signalman's evidence the Canal home was against the 5:12pm, but for some reason the Hurlford driver ran through it and the two trains met effectively head on on the crossing. The crew of the 5:35pm were killed the fireman of the 5:12 died later of his injuries. 5 passengers were killed and 34 injured.
The driver of the 5:12 from Paisley West, being the sole survivor of the footplate crews had to bear the brunt of the official enquiry and a trial for culpable homicide. He maintained that the signal was clear for him when he first sighted it; when he was within an engine length he looked up again and it was at danger. This implied that the signalman had "changed the road" after giving him the clear. At the enquiry, using a stopwatch, it was proved that this could not have been done in the time taken for the train to travel the distance. The enquiry therefore concluded that the driver was at fault, but at the trial for manslaughter he was acquitted.


Good stuff! Thanks for that. Thought you'd come up trumps! With so many dead and injured I can't understand why this doesn't feature in lists of Scottish/British train crashes?

My old man is starting to think he imagined it!! It's obviously the acquittal from the manslaughter charge he remembers.

Thanks again.
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Postby dimairt » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:51 pm

Here's one for all you train fans. It's the platform at Cumberland St. in the early 1960s.

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Postby theduke » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:02 pm

Thats a rerr pic Dimairt. I've often walked by the station, its great to see what it was like.
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Postby Alex Glass » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:25 pm

Thought this was the most appropriate place for this.

Taken at Shettleston Station which is on the Queen Street line.

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Postby theduke » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:06 pm

Excellent pics Alex, well done! :D Anyone any idea what that train is used for? Seems to say "Lab" something or other in the destination space....
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Postby Alex Glass » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:14 pm

theduke wrote:Excellent pics Alex, well done! :D Anyone any idea what that train is used for? Seems to say "Lab" something or other in the destination space....


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Postby theduke » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:25 pm

Thanks Alex :D Any idea???
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Postby Alex Glass » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:27 pm

I don't Duke but hope one of our tain experts will know what was going on.
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Postby dave2 » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:28 pm

IIRC it shines a beam of light out and measure the rebound to check for overhanging structures sand can be used to create a 3D shape pf each track and the distance of trackside structures such as bridges, power lines, signaling posts, platforms etc.

This allows a computer generated 'simulatoir'; to be created so you can tell if different classes of trains can go down a track without resorting to trial and error.
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Postby Alex Glass » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:33 pm

Thanks for the info Dave. Interesting very interesting :wink:
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