Hidden Glasgow War Memorials.

[DMcNay]

While I'm here:

Giffnock (so what if it's Renfrewshire, who cares?):



Did I post Uddingston before?



And some photos of the Garden of Remembrance for the burials in Sighthill and Southern Necropolis. These stones are now in Eastwood Cemetery.



A wide variety of regiments here. HLI, Black Watch, a Home Guard, some Machine Gun Corps, Royal Defence Corps, which was the First World War equivalent of the Home Guard, a Canadian Infantry, and a couple of Australian Corps. Plus a smattering of Air Force and Navy.

[Ronnie]

Speaking of crosses of sacrifice ... there is only one memorial of this kind that is horizontal, rather than vertical. Anyone care to hazard a guess where in the west end (that's a big clue for a start) this might be?

[thecatsmother]

Lambhill?

[HollowHorn]

Lambhill?

Would that be West End North East

[Fossil]

Lambhill?

Would that be West End North East

I think HH is right!

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[Alex Glass]

Whereabouts are you thinking?

And what are the ones in George Square you were referring to?

Hi Doc

The other two in George Square are statues - Sir John Moore, the Napoleonic Wars and Lord Clyde the Chinese War 1842 and the Indian Mutiny 1849.

I don't know the exact location of the memorials at Cathedral Square. I remember seeing one near Cathedral Street.

[DMcNay]

I would have classed them more as statues to individuals rather than war memorials.

By that measure you could say the statue of Lord Roberts at Kelvingrove Park is a war memorial, even though it isn't.

[Alex Glass]

I would have classed them more as statues to individuals rather than war memorials.

By that measure you could say the statue of Lord Roberts at Kelvingrove Park is a war memorial, even though it isn't.

Doc you are correct. Lord Roberts statue is a War Memorial.
Field Marshall earl Roberts VC, Hero of Waterford, Kandahar and Pretoria.

Any other suggestions?

[Ronnie]

Lambhill?

Would that be West End North East

Em ... Lambhill is in the north west!

The cross is not in a cemetery.

[thecatsmother]

Sorry guys.. misfired humour. Have you seen the state of Lambhill? There's a lot of stuff there that's horizontal wot ought to be vertical.

[DMcNay]

I would have classed them more as statues to individuals rather than war memorials.

By that measure you could say the statue of Lord Roberts at Kelvingrove Park is a war memorial, even though it isn't.

Doc you are correct. Lord Roberts statue is a War Memorial.
Field Marshall earl Roberts VC, Hero of Waterford, Kandahar and Pretoria.

Any other suggestions?

No, I wouldn't class it as one. Would you class the statue of Wellington as a war memorial? I wouldn't.

They commemorate the individual, not the war.

So by that the only memorial in George square is the Cenotaph, and possibly that plaque to the dead of the atomic bombs.

[HollowHorn]

Em ... Lambhill is in the north west!

In relationship to the West End?

[Alex Glass]

Doc

The Wellington statue is also classed as a War Memorial. The battle of Trafalga.

Thet are all pre first world war when people did things slightly different. I would agree with you on this but officially they are War Memorials. Maybe they should say someting to denote those people they are there to remember.

[DMcNay]

Doc

The Wellington statue is also classed as a War Memorial. The battle of Trafalga.

Lucky he invented those boots, he'd have got his feet wet otherwise. Battle of Waterloo surely?

Thet are all pre first world war when people did things slightly different. I would agree with you on this but officially they are War Memorials. Maybe they should say someting to denote those people they are there to remember.

Can you tell me where they are officially classed as war memorials? I've never heard of anyone using the statue of an individual commemorating a war or battle.

And does that mean we can include the Sir John Moore pub? After all, Battle of Corunna and all that. obviously not, it's named after him, not commemorating the battle he died in. Same with Wellington, Roberts, etc.

They didn't do things that much differently "back then". War memorials date back hundreds of years. You'll find them for the Crimean War, the Boer War, plus several incredibly small Victorian wars which lasted a fortnight and involved killing lots of natives. They are places of remembrance for families who couldn't visit the graves of their relatives who are buried somewhere in the world. Why would they use the figure of a general or politician for such a purpose?

There's an area in London with statues of Churchill, Monty, Slim, Wingate, Smuts and a couple of others. They commemorate the individuals. Not the War.

[Alex Glass]

Sorry Doc

I didn't have my notes with me when I posted last time. I should have said Waterloo. I was thinking of Nelson's column in Glasgow Green. This is also a War Memorial to those who lost their lives at Trafalga.

Just to emphisise the point. The other one at Cathedral Square is Prince William. This too is a memorial to the Glorious Revolution 1688-90. This statue was previously located at Glasgow Cross on Trongate.

I beleive these memorials are officially maintained on behalf of the War Memorials organisation. I will try and confirm the exact details of these arrangements.