Phantom streets on the Glasgow A to Z?

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Postby red_kola » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:58 pm

...although Goofle Earth does now list Great Western Road as such for its entirity (apart from a brief section at Clydebank). Perhaps they heard you after all...
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Postby cheesemonster » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:52 am

nodrog wrote:Google also shows a rail tunnel between Central and Queen street - either they know something we don't, or it's pure nonsense....!

Ah, yeah i wondered what that was all about myself
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Postby cheesemonster » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:12 pm

red_kola wrote:...although Goofle Earth does now list Great Western Road as such for its entirity (apart from a brief section at Clydebank). Perhaps they heard you after all...


Hmm...weird, if i look on google maps then that is the case but if i look on google earth it starts as Great Western Road then becomes both then it all turns into Great Western Road then it becomes Inverquhomery Road then it goes back to Great Western Road once more

so...er, yeah
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Postby nodrog » Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:41 pm

Dear Mr. Barr,

I'm European Marketing Manager for Tele Atlas and your message was sent
to my attention. First I would like to thank you for sharing the errors
you found in Glasgow. I rest to assure you that they have been taken
care of.

As you pointed out in one of your messages, it's important that we
explain our updating and correction process.

Tele Atlas has more than 50.000 sources of data, including mobile
mapping vans that drive all around Europe to collect data to either
update the changes in the roadnetwork that occur everyday or to correct
possible errors. This is a tremendous amount of work as we currently
cover over 7.8 million kilometers of roads in Europe. We check all the
sources and validate the information very carefully. Consumer feedback
is one of our sources and it is a very important one.

When we receive the consumer feedback, we open projects to solve the
problems or make updates on the data. Given the complexity of the
collection and validation processes required to assure quality, that may
take a few months. Once the error has been corrected in our database, it
will become available to the application developers (our direct
customers) in our next product release. Tele Atlas releases updated
products to its customers every 3 months.

When our customers receive our products, the data will also be
incorporated into their software updating process. This is a process
Tele Atlas has no control over but our customers do receive updated data
and process this data in different time frames that can take sometimes
six months. Only after our customers release their final products and
updates, can consumers check whether the updates are available for their
use.

Tele Atlas has launched a Beta version of a new consumer feedback tool,
the Map Insight, that will speed up the updating process and will also
make it easier for consumers to provide feedback and check whether a
problem still exists in our database.

Regarding the specific errors that you have reported, I would like to
let you know that we had an updating process last January in that region
and we will have another updating process at the end of this year. Most
of the errors you shared with us have already been corrected in our
database. The problem in Beckman Street will be corrected soon and the
problem in the University Avenue has been corrected partially and will
also be finalized soon. Once our product is released, changes that we
made are available on Map Insight.

I noticed that you have visited this website. It's still been further
improved and will be officially launched in the next couple of months.
If you have any suggestions on the site usability and how we can improve
it to better satisfy the needs of consumers, please report that either
through the feedback option at the last page of your feedback or send
your suggestions to me. The process I described above will be explained
in this website because it's important that the end-users of our data
understand the complexity of a mapping creation, the importance of
quality for us and also how the data is processed until it gets to final
use.

Please let me know if you have any questions or other suggestions.

I thank you once again and kind regards,

Karine Dombi
European Marketing Manager
Tele Atlas NV
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Postby cheesylion » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:10 pm

Is it just me or is that just a fancy-arsed way of saying "Aye, we know. Shut it, geez a brek an' wu'll fix it, awright!?"
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Postby Seamey » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:16 pm

Go to google maps enter as a route Glasgow to somewhere north and then wonder where the feck is DeMarco Street. According to them, it's bit outside the STV studios on cowcaddens road.
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Postby Simba » Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:37 pm

http://mc.multimap.com/cs/mi39//X10/Y26 ... e_seq=2585

Link to Multimap - does Garriochmill Road exist? When you go over QM Bridge the first road on the right is Queen Margaret Road isn't it? (I should know, I walk there every day). And there's no road after Doune Gardens on Belmont Street either than I can think of?
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Postby viceroy » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:58 pm

The section shown as Garriochmill Road on the multimap running between Queen Margaret Drive and Belmont Street is in fact the pedestrian way beside the Kelvin. It goes through one of the arches of the bridge on Queen Margaret Drive, passes the remnants of the old flint mill and finally goes underneath Belmont St. It then becomes Garriochmill Road proper, running parallel with Striven Gardens on its left and the old Lanarkshire Regiment drill hall on its right.

I have never seen this section being referred to as Garriochmill Road although that may well have been its name at one time.

If you come out of Doune Gardens onto Belmont Street and cross over you will find yourself at the start of Striven Gardens.
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Postby Simba » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:10 pm

I know where Striven Gardens is, is Garriochmill Road then the low level road at the bottom of the KS church? I was actually talking about that with my friend the other week! Strange that they have it as a continuation of the walkway then, that confused me. I'd also never heard of Garriochmill Road being there, but once I go look at my Glasgow West picture book, I think there was a picture of the railway with Garriochmill in the background. Thinking it was beside Garrioch Road I couldn't quite picture it. Thanks.
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Postby viceroy » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:11 pm

Following on from my earlier post I have just looked at my copy of John R. Hume's Industrial Archaeology Of Glasgow and it shows the address of the North Woodside Flint Mill as 125 Garriochmill Road so that would indeed appear to be the official name of that section of the walkway, as well as the actual road which continues beyond Belmont St.
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SatNav E-mapper in Dennistoun ???

Postby MungoDundas » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:02 pm

Annfield Place off Duke Street;
Clocked this Belgian E-mapping company van (with many surveillance units on roofrack and http://www.teleatlas.com decals) burling round in a cul-de-sac in Dennistoun in the rain today.
Maybe they're trying to ensure future increased accuracy?


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Postby OLDFART » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:51 am

At Pollokshaws roundabout (toll house) Harriet Place has been in Glasgow Street Directory as Harriet Street. It was originally but every edition keeps saying new revised but it never changes
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Re: SatNav E-mapper in Dennistoun ???

Postby AlanM » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:29 am

MungoDundas wrote:Annfield Place off Duke Street;
Clocked this Belgian E-mapping company van (with many surveillance units on roofrack and http://www.teleatlas.com decals) burling round in a cul-de-sac in Dennistoun in the rain today.
Maybe they're trying to ensure future increased accuracy?


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maybe his satnav sent him down the wrong street ::):
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Postby TA_Ealing » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:17 am

Here is an article about these vans on the BBC. Seems like a great job to me - apart from driving around Dennistoun.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6684381.stm
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Postby theduke » Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:52 am

TA_Ealing wrote:Here is an article about these vans on the BBC. Seems like a great job to me - apart from driving around Dennistoun.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6684381.stm


And whats wrong with driving around Dennistoun????
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