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Phantom streets on the Glasgow A to Z?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:23 am
by Seamey
Last night's mapman programme on BBC2 had the people who make London's A to Z admitting the existence of phantom streets in the maps. These streets disn't exist in real life, but existed on the map and the reason for them existing was to prove copyright theft. These streets also didn't matter much being small cul de sacs. Anyway are there any in the Glasgow A to Z?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:41 am
by AlanM
Google maps and mapquest have given some streets different names, have a look at Great Western Rd on both of these. There are some others in and around Knightswood that have been renamed by these sites.

Does anyone know of any more of these 'renamed' streets

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:05 am
by Apollo
I've noticed quite a few of these odd names, as I tend to use the online maps for convenience, rather than fire up the PC that has my GPS digital mapping.

Have to admit I largely ignored them before seeing this note, and assumed they were just foul ups on the part of the makers, as there is a huge amount of data to be collated, and the chances of getting the odd street name tagged to the wrong location is pretty high, even if only a tiny percentage of the total is at fault.

I've seen these slips in Glasgow, and Argyll & Bute areas.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:11 am
by Timchilli
AlanM wrote:Google maps and mapquest have given some streets different names, have a look at Great Western Rd on both of these. There are some others in and around Knightswood that have been renamed by these sites.

Does anyone know of any more of these 'renamed' streets

I have often wondered this myself with online maps.

Is it simply the case that the unusual names are the former incarnations of our current roadways? For example, the Clydeside Expressway is partly named Pointhouse Road. However, I have no idea why a significant chunk of Great Western Road is named Inverquhomery Road. Other odd names are dotted throughout the map.


Tim

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:12 pm
by ibtg
I also noticed the mis-naming of Great Western Road and emailed them to tell them of their mistake. I got an answer acknowledging my email and they were going to get it sorted. Is it still wrong? I guess it will take some time before the change filters down to all the sites.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:58 pm
by james73
Multimap currently has some very oddly-named streets around the Glasgow
Cross area.



James H

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:54 pm
by Socceroo
How about streets that are not on the map, but do exist! :?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:54 pm
by Socceroo
Like mine! :( (Double posted and then edited - bugger! Using a bloody mouse for the first time in weeks!)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:04 pm
by Flyingscot
Timchilli wrote:
AlanM wrote:Google maps and mapquest have given some streets different names, have a look at Great Western Rd on both of these. There are some others in and around Knightswood that have been renamed by these sites.

Does anyone know of any more of these 'renamed' streets

I have often wondered this myself with online maps.

Is it simply the case that the unusual names are the former incarnations of our current roadways? For example, the Clydeside Expressway is partly named Pointhouse Road. However, I have no idea why a significant chunk of Great Western Road is named Inverquhomery Road. Other odd names are dotted throughout the map.


Tim


Problem is there is only 2 map suppliers in the world for general electronic mapping IIRC. Navteq is one IIRC which supplies Tom Tom, Google and Medion, but I don't remember the other.

Glasgow Road is known as Jackson Street West in one of them. I'm not aware of any 'fake streets' but my Sat-Nav tells me to head straight down a street in Paisley (Storie Street) that doesn't exist, however I think this is accuracy as it did do it to 1995 or so.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:08 pm
by The Mighty R I D E
...like givin the polis a fake address. Just tell them
aye on check on google officer

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:51 am
by McShad
I've heard of Storie Street.... just can't remember where it is at the moment

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:10 pm
by Apollo
In Paisley. Used to connect High St. to George St. according my older map, but new map suggest University of Paisley building has trashed the High St. end and it is now called George St. The little bit left seems to change to Canal Terr. after it crosses George St.

I thought I'd seen one in Glasgow some time back, but can't find any refs.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:40 pm
by Flyingscot
Sort of..

The University now accomodates the George Street end of Storie Street albeit a car park not a building. The top part is still Storie Street, but now has a bend at the multi-story onto Witherspoon Street.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:50 pm
by tango
I'm not aware of any 'fake streets' but my Sat-Nav tells me to head straight down a street in Paisley (Storie Street) that doesn't exist, however I think this is accuracy as it did do it to 1995 or so.


Storie Street in Paisley still exists as shown here http://www.paisley.ac.uk/campuses/downloads/paisley_map.pdf . Think the continuation down to George Street was blocked off when the university built the new library building a few years ago. The street is home to the famous Alans chip shop which features on either (or maybe both) the best/worst chippy thread.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:54 pm
by Apollo
I knew there were some of these next to me, and this popped up when I was doing a local route, try this link:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=rhu+na+haven+road&hl=en

See what Hamilton Road turns into.

Also, zoom in to the small road linkng Rhu Na Haven Road and London Road. In reality, this is Kenmuirhill Road.

As for Straid Bheag, well, you can go work that one out yourself... I'm lost, and only round the corner :?