St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby scotty » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:16 pm

Hi guys,

Found some good picture of the station just before it was demolished, unfortunately can't post the pics but here' a link to the guys Flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/romari/3164558146/in/photostream/

Here's some more pictures of the hotel I found while having a surf. The first one courtesy of a thread on (of all places!) Strathycruise forum.

1st is this early pic which shows the travel centre building in the foreground:
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2nd is much later, this one some of the windows look to be boarded up, so guessing it was closed when this was taken (possibly 1960's - is that a mini parked out front? Mibby I could ask the Strathy Cruise boys :D)
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3rd and final one, this time showing St Enoch Parish Church:
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I realise this is off topic but the thread on Strathy Cruise also had some decent pics of old Glasgow, including the M8 and Clyde Tunnel construction on it as well if anyones interested http://www.strathycruise.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=103297&start=30&sid=126afaca180ffa9986fbe7e63ac8ca7a

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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby thegazman » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:36 pm

scotty wrote:Hi guys,

I realise this is off topic but the thread on Strathy Cruise also had some decent pics of old Glasgow, including the M8 and Clyde Tunnel construction on it as well if anyones interested http://www.strathycruise.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=103297&start=30&sid=126afaca180ffa9986fbe7e63ac8ca7a

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Nice wan Scott
some excellent pictures on that site 8)
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby BTJustice » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:47 pm

Great pics and the white car at the front of the hotel is a Renault 4.

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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby Knightmare » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:26 pm

I'm a bit confused. Can someone please clarify:- Did the trains arriving at St Enoch come in from the West ie under what is now the St Enoch Centre, or did they arrive from the south?

A couple of the photos appear to show tunnell like structures underneath the partly demolished buildings. So....did the trains follow the same sort of line as say Argyle Street to Cenral low level?
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby Mori » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:52 pm

The street that runs at the side of the front entrance of the hotel towards Stockwell st, what was it called ? were ther other streets leading to argyle st from here ?
anyone any photos of this street... i'm quite mystified by the location of the street for some reason. 8)
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby purplepantman » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:07 pm

Knightmare wrote:I'm a bit confused. Can someone please clarify:- Did the trains arriving at St Enoch come in from the West ie under what is now the St Enoch Centre, or did they arrive from the south?


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Postby Surfer Rosa » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:50 pm

From Socceroo's newspaper article on the St. Enoch Station accident:
Glasgow, according to the schedule, was to be reached about quarter to eight, the only stopping places on the way being Paisley and Eglinton Street, tickets being collected at the latter station.

How would the train have got to St. Enoch from Eglinton Street?
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Re: Re:

Postby purplepantman » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:07 pm

Surfer Rosa wrote:From Socceroo's newspaper article on the St. Enoch Station accident:
Glasgow, according to the schedule, was to be reached about quarter to eight, the only stopping places on the way being Paisley and Eglinton Street, tickets being collected at the latter station.

How would the train have got to St. Enoch from Eglinton Street?


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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby Surfer Rosa » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:53 pm

Thanks.
I was getting my Eglinton Street stations mixed up. There was another station of the same name on the main / Cathcart Circle line.
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby purplepantman » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:03 pm

Surfer Rosa wrote:Thanks.
I was getting my Eglinton Street stations mixed up. There was another station of the same name on the main / Cathcart Circle line.


Yes, I can see that there is another of the same name. That line seems to go to Central Station.
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby Knightmare » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:30 pm

purplepantman wrote:
Knightmare wrote:I'm a bit confused. Can someone please clarify:- Did the trains arriving at St Enoch come in from the West ie under what is now the St Enoch Centre, or did they arrive from the south?


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I see. Seems to me that St Enoch was quite a good location for a Station. Perhaps a bit hastie in getting rid of it.

I'm sure i saw some old photos of inside that Hotel. The hotel was closed at the time the photos were taken and it looked like a scene from the shining, interesting all the same!

Thanks for the info PPM
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby Josef » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:34 pm

Knightmare wrote:[I see. Seems to me that St Enoch was quite a good location for a Station. Perhaps a bit hastie in getting rid of it.

I'm sure i saw some old photos of inside that Hotel. The hotel was closed at the time the photos were taken and it looked like a scene from the shining, interesting all the same!


There's a post from escotregen on that very subject on page 2 of the thread.

I'm also fairly sure the interior photos are on here somewhere too (i.e. HG rather than this thread), although I'm not going to swear to it...
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby tobester » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:14 pm

Theres some pictures over on the railbrit site, click on the link below....

>>St Enoch Pictures Here<<
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby HollowHorn » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:22 pm

Mori wrote:The street that runs at the side of the front entrance of the hotel towards Stockwell st, what was it called ? were ther other streets leading to argyle st from here ?


I think it may be called St. Enoch Place now, there is a street sign on the wall, can't quite remember what it says though.

Was it once called Croy Place? Or was that the street behind the wall?:
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A couple of views of the rear of the street:
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A sketch of the accident 'Socceroo' described earlier in the thread:
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27 July 1903; 16 killed 27 injured
Train ran into buffer stops

William Hunter, 40
Marion James, 42
Robert James, 35
George Edward Darroch, 35
Janet Ewart,34
Mary Duff, 27
Alexander Nutt, [no age]
John L Wilson, [no age]
Hannah Paterson, 24
Charles Wilson, 38
Mary Wilson, 39
Mary Wilson, 7
Charles Wilson, 4
Henrietta Henderson, 26

not killed- Driver, Henry Northcote

In his book on railway accidents, Red for Danger, L. T. C. Rolt
wrote:
A collision with a buffer stop backed by a solid masonry platform
even at relatively low speed, can have most disastrous results.
This was revealed at the St. Enoch terminus of the Glasgow & South
Western Railway on July 27th, 1903, when the worst collision of
this kind on a British main line railway occurred.
The accident was entirely due to an error of judgement on the
part of the inexperienced driver of a special train from Ardrossan
to Glasgow. St. Enoch station had then been recently rebuilt and
Platform No 8 into which the train was signalled was a new platform
not so long as the others and terminating short of the station's
overall roof. The driver was evidently misled by this. He ran in
too fast and was still travelling at ten miles an hour when his
engine hit the stops. No less than sixteen passengers lost their
lives and sixty-four were injured, the first and second coaches
being completely telescoped.


This is rather interesting, first time i'd heard of The Whitebait Music Hall:
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Whitebait.htm
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Re: St Enoch Station (Not Subway)

Postby Charlie Endell » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:04 pm

scotty wrote:Hi guys,

Found some good picture of the station just before it was demolished, unfortunately can't post the pics but here' a link to the guys Flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/romari/3164558146/in/photostream/

I hope the guy never removes those photos - Holy Grail stuff. A tragedy made even sadder by what sits on the site now. Anyone got any newspaper clippings relating to protests against the demolition? I've always fancied going to the Mitchell and trawling through the Herald from the mid to late 70s to see what I can find.
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