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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scaryman2u » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:26 am

scotsjock wrote:well its winter time and most showmen and their famillies are now in the yard some open at the SECC and others away on holiday for a few weeks before starting regular employment til starting out time.starting out times vary with some scottish showmen waiting for valentines fairs to come round.some head off to leeds others open in glasgow and some head off to team valley in newcastle before returning back in time to catch Kirkcaldy links market.lots of the bigger fairs have now downsized but many still remain.some showmen are currently in warehouses dotted around glasgow carrying out modifications to their attractions for example making things a little easier for themselves cutting down on the time it takes to pull down their attractions.


Meanwhile others sit down and write out their Tax and N.I. returns ?
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:09 am

:) how wrong you are ? travelling showpeople pay bills like everybody else.the bills they pay are more than most can afford.thousands of pounds just to get insurance to operate for starters.public liability council tax national insurance rent for places of residence all year round.rent for opening in towns deisel bills electric bills the list goes on.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:29 am

i started this topic to give people an insight of what life is like in the fairground community not to start ranting about national insurance and tax.also the showmens guild in scotland have an elected member who attends paliament in scotland to put their points across to MPs.alex salmond is all for travelling showpeople being part of society hes attended many a guild function in support of this community.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby Josef » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:49 pm

Apologies on behalf of the forum, S.

One of my many faults is a non-obvious appreciation of our valued but non-regular subject-area posters. Cell on power-related things, Alycidon on rail, that sort of thing. I mean, what do you say? "Great post!!" is just silly and can only be said so many times. But it's good to have all you guys around.

Scaryman2u has turned up at HG events in Real Life, and kudos to you for that, Scary, but as with any internet-y thing, it's always worth checking the posting time.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby banjo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:55 pm

well said josef,we really do appreciate the specialist knowledge of some posters.we cant afford to lose this aspect of the forum.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby aland » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:54 pm

exactly this thread has been most interesting, you forget about the travelling fair folk, can remember there was a yard in saltcoats that the fairground folk used when the shows were there. what interests me is more the rigs themselves as there is some stonking trucks and living vans, being a bit of a caravan nut seeing a traditional showman's van with all the ornate glasswork is amazing

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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scaryman2u » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:41 am

Josef wrote:Apologies on behalf of the forum, S.

One of my many faults is a non-obvious appreciation of our valued but non-regular subject-area posters. Cell on power-related things, Alycidon on rail, that sort of thing. I mean, what do you say? "Great post!!" is just silly and can only be said so many times. But it's good to have all you guys around.

Scaryman2u has turned up at HG events in Real Life, and kudos to you for that, Scary, but as with any internet-y thing, it's always worth checking the posting time.


OK Fair comment, I have signed in a few times since my post, but cannot think of a good posting time to reply as i`m restricted to when I can be on here, for the sake of clarification on these restricted times please advise me when it is suitable to post on here for the more tolerant readers or just shut HG down at 10 pm !
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scaryman2u » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:25 am

In fact, just delete my membership.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:13 pm

yes they are part of glasgows heritage as a city.a community within a community if you like.glasgow transport museum recognises this with a showmans caravan situated inside the museum itself once owned by glasgow showman john carter.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:22 pm

showmans caravans can cost thousands of pounds.some have articulated caravans towed by a lorry others smaller caravans such as hobbys towed by a van or jeep.there are specialist caravan makers such as pilot who make traditional showmans accomodation which comprise of two bedrooms bathroom kitchen and living room.early models gave way to newer ones which included pull out sections to make the living space bigger inside.the pull out sections of the caravans were designed so that they could be pushed back in while on the road and didnt get in the way of the internal fittings of the van itself so that you could still go from room to room with the pull out sections pushed in.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:35 pm

nowadays things have moved on with many showmen purchasing caravans such as american travel trailers which have every mod con you can think of.they come in various sizes right up to over 50ft in length with several pull out sections,gas central heating,air conditioning etc etc.an american travel trailer wasnt so common in years gone bye but now they are all the rage.the transport too has changed with showmen getting their lorries painted up in distinctive liveries so that they stand out above the rest.hornes pleasure fairs being a prime example of a showmans fleet which many a passer bye casts their eye over.painted in a cream black and green colour scheme hornes took it one step further by adding chrome accesories to their trucks.kind of like the trucks you would see at truckfest in ingleston.
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:49 pm

one of hornes pleasure fairs fleet
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:11 pm

an american RV hooked up to a lorry
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby scotsjock » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:31 pm

artwork on a fairground attraction
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Re: the fairground folk of the east end of glasgow

Postby peasy23 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:35 pm

scotsjock wrote:yes they are part of glasgows heritage as a city.a community within a community if you like.glasgow transport museum recognises this with a showmans caravan situated inside the museum itself once owned by glasgow showman john carter.


Scotsjock, one of Petershill's best players of the late 1960's was a forward called Johnny Pullar, who came from a fairground family. He went on to play for Hibs and Ayr United. The last we saw him at Petershill was when he organised a match for some showmen at the old Petershill Park around/over 10 years ago.
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