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Glasgow Subway - Partick (Merkland Street)

Postby ibtg » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:34 pm

At some point in this thread, I read that someone thought that the subway station had been moved when the rail station and subway were brought together in one building.

I don't remember that happening, but they did move the rail station from one side of the Dumbarton Road Bridge to the other at that time.

You can still see the old Partick Station when you travel on the train. The entry used to be up some stairs near where the flower shop is now, at the stone wall, on the Woolworths side of Dumbarton Road.
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Postby glasgowken » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:50 am

McShad wrote:I'm also sure that 'the pit' is still there... The same aluminium bars and a flash of another train today.


The pit IS still there, and it can be very clearly seen in the modern segment of the "Glasgow Underground" DVD, well worth getting for anyone with an interest in Glasgow history.

"Glasgow Trams" Parts 1 & 2 have now also been transferred to DVD (at last :D ).
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Postby MotoMad » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:13 pm

Where abouts can you get the Glasgow Underground DVD mate?How much?
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Postby glasgowken » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:23 pm

I got mine at the Glasgow Transport Museum gift shop, I think they are also available mail order from specialist DVD stores.

Forget the exact amount I paid for the underground one, about £12 I think. The Glasgow trams DVDs are around £25 each (ouch!!! 8O ) but worth every penny as they are packed full of archive film of old Glasgow streets.

The VHS video version of these is available from the library, and maybe the DVDs as well.
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Postby MotoMad » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:59 pm

I think i'll pick up the underground one.making a wee trip to the transport museum soon for photies anyways. cheers mate :mrgreen:
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Postby Margaret » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:39 pm

Modern Fossil wrote:The Kinning Park Co-Op building is directly behind it:
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This building was in Coburg street and was the office block for the Co-op; it was attached to the Bridge Street building, the Co-op department store, you could cut through one building to the other via a passage way.
I have some old photographs of these buildings, and other around but it might take me some time to dig them out
The building next to the Co-op was Sloans Dept. store at one time, which I am sure then moved to your other fave building Cumbrae House; there was another department store connected to Sloans in South Portland Street.
I know this stuff because I lived in Coburg Street/Oxford Street for a long time.
I'll dig out the old photos, have a chat with my friend who also lived there, about the lay out of the Co-op buildings (we used to play there running through one building to the other until we got tossed out) see if I can dig up any more info for you
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Postby My Kitten » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:53 pm

Margaret wrote: I'll dig out the old photos, have a chat with my friend who also lived there, about the lay out of the Co-op buildings (we used to play there running through one building to the other until we got tossed out) see if I can dig up any more info for you


Looking forward to that Margaret. :)
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Postby glasgowken » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:30 am

I picked up another Glasgow Underground recording in the Transport Museum, a VHS video called "Glasgow Subway".
It's a professionaly made film, and the picture quality is excelent, better than the amateur footage on the "Glasgow Underground" DVD.
They only had about 4 copies left in the bargin bin, so be quick if you want a copy :)
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merkland street station and old subway photos

Postby jordiemc » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:07 am

Those old subway photos are fantastic. I'll need to check out the book.

Somebody mentioned trying to check out the old stations such as Merkland street. This probably isn't new because I think i probably read it on here somewhere, but it's possible to see the chamber where merkland street station was, from the train just before partick.

I was on the train from govan to partick this morning and i waiting by the window, it's about 25 metres before you come into partick station that the tunnel opens up to a chamber where you can see the other line.

I say we all get discovery tickets and travel between govan and partick to check it out.
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Re: merkland street station and old subway photos

Postby dazza » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:45 am

jordiemc wrote:Somebody mentioned trying to check out the old stations such as Merkland street. This probably isn't new because I think i probably read it on here somewhere, but it's possible to see the chamber where merkland street station was, from the train just before partick.

I was on the train from govan to partick this morning and i waiting by the window, it's about 25 metres before you come into partick station that the tunnel opens up to a chamber where you can see the other line.


No, it probably isn't new, and yes, you probably did read it on here somewhere 'cause if you go waaaaaaaaaaaaay back, ummmm, just 2 pages in this thread you'll see that McShad wrote:
Just to confirm to you that Merkland Street underground station is just about visible if you look sharp and sit on the correct side of the coach.
If you are travelling from Partick to Govan, you want to sit on the left side of the train, that is to say, the side that you enter the train at that station.
When the train moves off, you'll see and orange cable running along the tunnel wall... follow that with your eyes and after a few seconds, you will see an alluminum looking structure which looks abit like the stuff for holding plasterboards up. That would be the old platform or what is left of it. If you are really lucky, you'll see a train going the other way.

Similar to that, I suspect that the original 'pit' is still there in some way. Before you hit the points of the exit tunnels, you can see a similar aluminium structure (probably used for holding the communication cables). No doubt, it will be covered over at the top for safety etc.
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Postby dmon » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:14 pm

great pics!
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Postby MotoMad » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:12 pm

Emailed SPT if the partick subway station would be cleaned/renovated as part of the rebuilding of partick station , heres the reply
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Dear Mr McGilp

Apologies for the delay in responding. The Subway Station will not be renovated as part of the rebuilding project.

However, SPT realises that it has been over 25 years since the Subway was last renovated and that work is needed on the system.

SPT has commission a feasibility study to look into all the options for the Subway. One of the difficulties is that the Subway is still paying off the loan used to pay for the virtually complete rebuilding of the system in 1979.

Costs on the Subway tend to be high because it is a unique narrow gauge and all the rolling stock has to be purpose built.

Regards
David McLavin
Chief Public Relations & Marketing Officer
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Postby Ally Doll » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:18 pm

MotoMad wrote: One of the difficulties is that the Subway is still paying off the loan used to pay for the virtually complete rebuilding of the system in 1979.


That must have been one hell of a loan 8O, and if that's the case, it doesn't sound like Glasgow will get a shiny new subway anytime soon :(
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Postby MotoMad » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:21 pm

Thats what i thought myself , though they said themselves they need new rolling stock which will cost the £50 million ,subway systems on its arse as it is.
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Postby Alycidon » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:34 am

This is something that I think is basically wrong with our public transport systems. They seem to go in for the high cost, big publicity modernisation scheme like the complete overhaul of the Underground then leave it to stagnate for the next couple of decades. Then suddenly they wake up to the realisation that they have to do it all again. Why can't they have a policy of continuous improvement.
Another good example is the West Coast Railway to London, millions spent in the 60s and 70s electrifying it then left to rot, and as a result billions are having to be spent now catching up with years of neglect.
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