Past Present

[engineer]

possibly 'pgcc'?!

[lordsleek]

i think it says Fleet

[JamesMc]

Cumberland st in the Gorbals, looking West 1965



2005



Difficult to get the proper angle as there is a wee wall and fence with shrubbery in the way, but you get the idea.

[JamesMc]

A playpark in the Gorbals, early 1900's



2005 - The railway bridge now defunct, the old station building now the Brazen Head pub. The swingpark a car park for a social club.\



Both old pictures again from Eric Eunson's fantastic "The Gorbals - An Illustrated History"

[Schiehallion]

Cumberland st in the Gorbals, looking West 1965



2005



Difficult to get the proper angle as there is a wee wall and fence with shrubbery in the way, but you get the idea.

Is this the same scene? The corner of the pavement in the past pic is about 12 yards further from the bridge. Also the more distant bridge is supported by pillars in the old pic?

[stinkpad]

Is this the same scene? The corner of the pavement in the past pic is about 12 yards further from the bridge. Also the more distant bridge is supported by pillars in the old pic?

Yes, the bridge in the background has been demolished - the one you can see in the today pic is obscured by the old one in the older pic.

[lordsleek]

hope jamesmc doesnt mind me answering for him. the scene is the same but the road has been widened and the far away bridge has been replaced completely

[lordsleek]

wow syncronicity man

[JamesMc]

Yes, it is indeed the same scene. I can see where the confusion came from though, and thanks to stinkpad and lordsleek for clearing some of that up. As Lordsleek said, Hospital st at this point has has been widened and re-angled.Where the tenements on the left stood has been curtailed.

The bridge. I am a wee bit unclear on this one myself. It does look like a different bridge. The one there in the present does have pillar support on the far side, rusted so a bit hard to make out. The old bridge clearly has support on the nearest side.

Now stinkpad, do you think there were two separate bridges? Or has the bridge just been modified?

[JamesMc]

Lets see if this sheds any light. An aerial shot of the area from 1962.



Clearly the bridge we can see has a flat top edge. Is that an arched top edge just to the left poking up above the flat one? Come to think of it, there is a big bit of blank wall immediately next to where the bridge is now that isn't in keeping with the rest of the shop buildings.

[stinkpad]

Clearly the bridge we can see has a flat top edge. Is that an arched top edge just to the left poking up above the flat one? Come to think of it, there is a big bit of blank wall immediately next to where the bridge is now that isn't in keeping with the rest of the shop buildings.

Yup, used to pass it all the time on the bus, the gap where the bridge used to join has been bricked up.

[Targer]

From the photo. by JamesMc I see they (GCC) started to demolish the area even in 1962? I thought the demolition program started late say 1965. I knew this area well and its to bad its changed...for ever.

[escotregen]

Schiehallion, as always for me the value of these great everyday photographs is the little incindentals. On the middle extreme right there is a Morris Minor, and behind it is that a Hillman Imp? If so it would have been relatively new and trendy at that time.

The Belisha beacon that appears to stick right out the top of the Morris Minor seems very tall? I thought they were just for Zebra crossings and that those ones were not as tall - in the photograph it doesn't seem to be the location for a Zebra.

Moving over to the extreme left hand side, see the guy at the lampost and further up outside the shop? Just guys hingin' aboot in a nonedescript street - nowadays New Labour would have an ASBO out on you and have you evicted from the neighbourhood for doing such a thing.

Still on the left hand side; behind the wee van I think that is a cart (as in horse and cart) albeit a fancy one with 'rubber' wheels - still a common sight in mid 60s Glasgows.

Another, for me, surprising detail is in the far horizon beyond the pillared bridge. There seems to be the structure of the awful brutalist multi storey block that is still there today. I'm surprised that (assuming it is the multi) that it was there at that time... possibly still being built?

Anyway I better stop here or else Cumbo and Fossil will be joking again at my expense about my long postings

[Pgcc93]

Kelvindale




2005

[james73]

Yes, it is indeed the same scene. I can see where the confusion came from though, and thanks to stinkpad and lordsleek for clearing some of that up. As Lordsleek said, Hospital st at this point has has been widened and re-angled.Where the tenements on the left stood has been curtailed.

The bridge. I am a wee bit unclear on this one myself. It does look like a different bridge. The one there in the present does have pillar support on the far side, rusted so a bit hard to make out. The old bridge clearly has support on the nearest side.

Now stinkpad, do you think there were two separate bridges? Or has the bridge just been modified?

There were two seperate bridges as that section of the viaduct had four tracks
on it. After the closure of St Enoch it was reduced to two tracks, so a few
bridges were either removed or modified, and sections of the brick
viaduct demolished.



James H