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Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

Suggest you consult with Scottish Local History Forum people. The local sources and the historical works about Kinneil I have consulted to date, more or less repeat the ghost story quoting the same sources that I have already disproved. I was hoping that perhaps there is an equally local story floa...
by freebornjohn
Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:15 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

The First Minister can answer for himself. I'm saying your interpretation is crap; maybe his is as well. The First Minister was quite vocal about it, and the press documented his statement. I am not interpreting anything because I have no political or religious cause to champion. Therefore the docu...
by freebornjohn
Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:09 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

Sounding childish, you raised it in the first place, and at some length. If you don't want to get any deeper, then we'll leave it in saying that our modern understanding of nation and church doesn't easily apply to the early fourteenth century. That letter to the Pope was in response to Edward's ci...
by freebornjohn
Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:47 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

That's why Charles II tried to bury history in order to bury law. Ok, you've got me curious. What does this mean? It means that the term 'Interregnum' was invented to join up the gap between the reign of Charles I and Charles II, and Charles II then rolled back time from 1660 to 1649 and made the l...
by freebornjohn
Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:03 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

FBJ you must know that the precise spelling of the name doesn't matter much, there was no uniformity until recently. In fact it doesn't matter that much now does it? Despite the Spelling Gestapo screaming it does. ::): I took Lillyburn spelling about the print works from the EDC photo file captions...
by freebornjohn
Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:50 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

Cromwell's invasion and subjugation of Scotland is not something that sits well in the mainstream edited version of Scottish history. Indeed not something the present regime would like to hear very much about either but your correct Scotland was incorporated in to the English Commonwealth at the ti...
by freebornjohn
Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:59 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

Icecube - Yes, it is. The reason why I posted this is because the name 'Lilyburn' is the name first used by the person who invented the ghost story at about the time that the Lillyburn print works first opened. (Then it became a distillery, before reverting to a print works again. The site still sta...
by freebornjohn
Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:52 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: Do you know anything the Lillyburn print works?

Sorry if the original heading 'shouted' in caps, because I am looking for information to help my research, not trying to drive readers away. :oops: I am getting readers but no contributors to this thread. :( Here's why I need your help: I posted the basics of what I know about the place - it was one...
by freebornjohn
Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:21 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION

I am researching the origins of a myth about a "Lady Lilyburn" (Lillyburn, or Lillieburn) taking a dive at Kinneil House into a "Gil-burn" and becoming a ghost story which still collects money at Halloween. I am also trying to debunk the same myth from being linked to Colonel Rob...
by freebornjohn
Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:30 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: LILLYBURN - OR LILLIEBURN - LOOKING FOR INFORMATION
Replies: 18
Views: 12681

Re: JFK's First Public Address at Central Station

The contents of JFK's pages contained between the covers of his 'Profiles in Courage' were, like the title, part of the carefully crafted image-building plan of Joe. Even if JFK showed up in Scotland more by chance than by initial planning, I am sure that Joe made the most of it. Joe did not believe...
by freebornjohn
Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:10 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: JFK's First Public Address at Central Station
Replies: 29
Views: 18967

Re: Photos of Cowglen Hospital

and what was termed at the time by the Postmaster General (and others), as the 'overcrowded' Medium wave Band upon which the offshore stations of those days were operating. I can't find that term applied by any Postmaster General. Whilst I did find it used as an argument by BBC chief engineer, Capt...
by freebornjohn
Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:39 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: Photos of Cowglen Hospital
Replies: 13
Views: 9385

Re: JFK's First Public Address at Central Station

I agree, but actually I was responding to your previous comment: [quote][/quote]Nice find Bridie. Unfortunately the shout you hear is related to Scottish sectarianism, and a relatively famous incident at the time. The individual is shouting 'we want no popery here' related of course to the Kennedys ...
by freebornjohn
Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:28 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: JFK's First Public Address at Central Station
Replies: 29
Views: 18967

Re: JFK's First Public Address at Central Station

RDR I agree. In fact the entire aura of mythology that now surrounds the Kennedy family has been carefully crafted over a period of time by various people - including Jackie O who invented the nonsense about Camelot after JFK died. The same is true of the whole Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis f...
by freebornjohn
Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:25 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: JFK's First Public Address at Central Station
Replies: 29
Views: 18967

Re: Photos of Cowglen Hospital

Although I put those particular words within quotation marks, they were intended to convey the extensive wordage of a long conversation about the inexactitude of inexpensive transistor radio sets that were in use during the 1960s, and what was termed at the time by the Postmaster General (and others...
by freebornjohn
Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:37 pm
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: Photos of Cowglen Hospital
Replies: 13
Views: 9385

Re: AFN Cowglen Hospital

Thanks for the additional info. Yes, I remember listening to AFN from the two main transmitters in what was then West Germany during the Nineteen Fifties, because aside from 208 there was not much else for early teens to listen to. That was the intention of the British record companies who forced ev...
by freebornjohn
Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:19 am
 
Forum: Glasgow Chat (Coffee Lounge)
Topic: Photos of Cowglen Hospital
Replies: 13
Views: 9385
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